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Homelessness in usa increased by 20% from 2023. Family homelessness increased by 40%. >50% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. Your side lost because they did a shit job not because people were "fooled".
Congrats on conclusively demonstrating you don't understand how economies or governments work.
Our side lost because a plurality of people are too fucking stupid to know when someone is lying to their faces.
That is one way of looking at the previous election. Insulting those who voted against you usually does not bring them back to your side. Perhaps you should consider a change in strategy. I'm sure you knew that since you are so educated and superior. You could explain to them "how economies and governments work". Have you actually spoken to any of these people? No. You just know they are stupid and easily tricked, no wonder they refused to vote for you.
They didn’t vote against me. The problem is they voted against their own interests. They voted for bigger lies. Ie. Gullible
No, we’ve all seen how logic and reason is futile. Touching base with reality does nothing. Actual experts are dismissed as less important than their echo chamber. Ie. Emotionally driven, easily manipulated
If you could explain to them, the unprecedented levels of fact checking, proven falsehoods, would have stopped this before the first term
Yes reality. Here is reality: record high personal debt, bankruptcies, homelessness, record high immigration for "amnesty", the funding of foreign proxy wars and when actual citizens ask "please help us" the response is vote for us and maybe we will. That is their reality not that they "fell for big lies". You are the one trapped in an echo chamber.
Trend since 2011 showing personal debt trending down or flat
data 2001-2022 showing bankruptcies way down. While it isn’t current, it would have to be up hundreds of percent
Ok homelessness was on a steady downward trend until a spike in the last year or two, undoing progress since 2007
Immigration for amnesty does not indicate a problem here but is more driven by problems elsewhere. It’s more difficult (and generally frowned upon) to interfere in other countries.
Helping Ukraine defend itself has generally been the popular choice, and it’s great for the US economy. The war in Gaza may not be popular but we’re not really spending money on it.
One party has been trying to pursue healthcare reform, student loan debt, restore unions, bring manufacturing back to the us, invest in infrastructure and help transition us to a more modern economy, and other wants to distract with pointless trade wars and tariffs while cutting taxes for wealthy
They're just a troll
Yeah, I fall for those way too frequently
According to Bank of America, the percentage of Americans living paycheck to paycheck has been increasing, with 47% of consumers reporting that they live this way in the third quarter of 2024
Car repossessions are up 23% in 2024 compared to the previous year, and 14% higher than pre-pandemic levels in 2019:
The homelessness rate in the United States increased from 1.75 to 1.96 per 1,000 people between 2022 and 2023, a 12% rise. This is the highest rate since 2012.
I sympathize with a lot of your points but this is what you're doing ITT:
R's are never going to get any reconciliation until they at least admit to the shitstorm they've caused (and have just chosen to extend another 4 years). But I don't see that happening on a party level. All they do is very occasionally say something like "both sides are getting too heated, let's cool off a bit" which accepts no real responsibility and changes nothing.
Don't feed the troll
Here is what you are doing. Pretending this is all about R's and D's, Trump and Biden but it's not. It's about regular people living decent maybe even good lives. The current administration did not deliver and lost the election. It's that simple. You keep pretending like someone owes you an apology but no one owes you anything.
I agree with that too, US politics since Obama's win has been "status quo" vs "desire for reform" and the D's lost 2016/2024 by being on the wrong side. But you're ignoring my entire comment and that's a big factor in current attitudes as well. Winning the election on legit issues doesn't mean you get a free pass for bad behavior.
We live in a democracy and the orange man won so apparently democracy disagrees with you. If they agreed then we would have had a different winner.
Stfu putibot
That was a global trend due to international affairs. A lot of ruling parties lost this year.
In the west, yes. Globally no.