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Ah I see: A vote for Trump is one vote for Trump, but not voting for Trump is two votes for Trump.
Honest question: how could I have improved the clarity of my comment to avoid it being interpreted as wrong as you did? I'll rephrase it in bullet points.
A Trump voter who doesn't preach is 1 vote for Trump
A non-voter who doesn't preach is 1 vote for Trump
A Trump voter who preaches is at least 1 vote for Trump as they are actively encouraging others to vote for him. Their vote is the 1 plus the people they might influence
A non-voters who preaches is at least 1 vote for Trump as they are actively encouraging others to not vote. Their vote is the 1 plus the people they might influence
So in summary:
People who promoted voting for Trump AND people who promoted not voting are worse than people who quietly voted for Trump. All 3 groups are worse than quiet non-voters.
OC is referring to the non-voting advocates that disappeared from political discussions on Lemmy after the election.
I don't remember anyone actively encouraging others to not vote. I'm pretty sure people would just openly say "I am not voting" and then be forced to defend themselves, but that's certainly not the same as trying to convince other people to not vote.
Were you active on Lemmy earlier this year? It was pervasive. I don't mean posts detailing why you shouldn't vote, I mean tons of comments saying that if you voted Democrat this election, you supported genocide.
I'm just not sure if it stopped because their contracts ended or because the ruble tanked in value.
Yeah, I believe that too. That isn't the same as telling people not to vote. If you believe you have to vote for genocide to stop a greater genocide then more power to you, but you aren't allowed to pretend you didn't vote for genocide.
Maybe you didn't know this, but the election ended.
Ya know what, you're right! Shaming people for voting is not the exact same thing as directly instructing them not to vote. That is a super important distinction that absolutely changes their role in getting other people not to vote.
It also seems I was wrong about those commenters disappearing after the election. It was my fault to assume that they had a solution to propose. I wasn't considering how hard that would be to find in total darkness with their heads up their asses.
You've defeated me on a technicality so now I must leave this conversation. Farewell!
The person you're talking to was one of the biggest voices of this shit before the election.
Yeah, fuck them.