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https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/pz-2024-2017/html
It's open access.
Hm, which of these are actually stimulants (i.e. substances that increase alertness)? The ones I know seem to be depressants, painkillers and hallucinogens, which seem less useful immediately before battle than stimulants.
The ephedrine plants would be precursors to stims but still need quite a bit of preparation as far as I know. You might be able to get ephedrine extracted from a plant but that's not a stimulant in the way we would think of adderall or cocaine or something today, having a more similar effect to caffeine.
Both caffeine and ephedrine are stimulants.
Yes. That's why I compared the two. However when comparing caffeine to what Id argue most people think of as stimulants like cocaine or amphetamine, they have incredibly minor effects. Its like comparing <1% thc hemp and a 90% thc concentrate imo
This always made me wonder. Why don't we hear more about these psychoactive substances in modern day drugs. I know the nightshade family is usually poisonous as well as psychoactive but surely people have experimented with extracting/filtering these plants to get the desired effect like we extract cocaine from coca leaves or opium from poppies.
Dunno about the US but these pants are all alive and well in Europe, it's just that the experiences they provide tend to be petty extreme (in the case of datura/belladone for example), and/or too weak or impractical compared to the modern offerings. But yeah any psychonaut worth their salt would at least know about them if not tried some of them.
erowid.org exists.
I looked up ephedrine, as far as I could tell the side effects were quite heavy compared to caffein or cocaine (though cocaine makes up for it by being very addictive).