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So all we need to do is find a way to put people in prison!

Win-win!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lots, but currently pretty fucking infuriating to see cops get an increase of 160 million, while the fire department gets ~17 million cut. But I guess it balances out if they use those police to build an indentured class that they can pay next to nothing to fight the fires instead!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah totally policies set forth by liberals. Totally not ancient federal and state laws

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

See part of why I have so much of a gripe with liberals is this sort of mentality here. California is one of the most solidly blue states in the country. Since you didn't defend it on the merits, it seems you agree the choice I described in my post was not great, correct? But instead of realizing that it may be possible that rich politicians from your team are not actually on your side, you just defer to nebulous 'ancient laws' that apparently make it impossible for helpful choices in, and lets be clear here, a city deciding it's own budget. Care to point to the federal and/or state laws that just hamstring the benevolent liberals of LA and force them to increase the police budget by 160 million dollars? Laws that apparently can't be challenged, or circumvented by the liberals in those positions, since they would certainly do so if they could, right??

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Rich politicians are not liberal. They are neoliberal. There is a vast ocean between the two

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Neoliberals huh? So where are the liberals in all this? Destitute in the streets?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bitching about liberals from their ivory towers appparently

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So are the liberals bitching about neoliberals from ivory towers then?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Right. What im saying is leftists are the same until a policy measure fails then to people on here "its the fault of liberals" as if theyre not the same arm of the constituency. Its just devisive bullshit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So did they vote to keep slavery from their ivory towers, and blame it on neoliberals?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It looks like the entire state was ignorant or misled by deliberately confusing wording. Down ballot voters were more likely to check "no". Had they used the word slavery in the measure it would have more likely have passed like it did in a variety of other states that, wait for it, are liberal

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Okay, so the neoliberals that are the actual problem chose poor wording so they could trick the liberals into voting to keep slavery?

Were the changes to the LA budget the product of "ancient federal and state laws" or neoliberals now?

Are all the politicians neoliberals, or just most with power in the state?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Im not really sure which part youre confused about. The law that has existed since the 1800s, how ballot measures are worded in "legalese" so theyre difficult to understand, or that neolibs are republicans wearing democrat skin?

I know its a lot to comprehend but i think you can do it buddy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you think liberals are fighting to make more sensible ballot language and have just failed because they can't garner enough political power in California?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I think theres too many rich folk that dont want to push the envelope

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Those ancient and federal policy makers? Liberals, probably xD

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Where were the leftists then?xD

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, at the time they probably were the left. Depending on which definition of left vs right we are using, because of course there are multiple stances on what left vs right means :(

cries in recently educated

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Kinda hard to say but youre probably right considering the 13th amendment passed in 1865 and it was between the mid 1800s and early 1900s the parties switched