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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Russians have reportedly been told to kill North Korean troops so they are not captured by Ukrainians, an expert has said.

South Korea has also claimed that Kim Jong Un's soldiers have been told to end their own lives lest they are taken as prisoners of war.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

That’s the part I’m asking “why” about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why don't they do what soldiers are supposed to do and fight to avoid capture? Or better yet, just withdraw and go home?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Or better yet, just withdraw and go home?

Numerous testimonies of North Korean defectors confirm the practice of kin punishment (연좌제, yeonjwaje literally "association system") in North Korea, under which three to eight generations of a political offender's family can be summarily imprisoned or executed. -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kin_punishment#North_Korea

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I meant that if Russia and NK can't afford to keep troops on the front, then they should withdraw and send them home. Not that individual soldiers should defect and return to their homes. That would be incredibly stupid, since it's probably punishable by execution.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I meant that if Russia and NK can’t afford to keep troops on the front, then they should withdraw and send them home.

Both can afford North Korean soldiers just fine. There are suggestions that North Korea gets missile technology designs and North Korea sends disposable soldiers and old, rusty equipment.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I imagine Kim Jong Un doesn't want his soldiers spending time in Europe unsupervised before returning back to DPRK. Wouldn't surprise me if the order came from him to Putin.

EDIT: the order probably came from Kim Jong Un's sister, she's the brutal one. But it no doubt has his stamp of approval.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Y'all really just eat this shit up with a spoon, huh?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

the order probably came from Kim Jong Un’s sister, she’s the brutal one.

By killing the North Korean soldiers, their families will probably not be punished because they stood their ground. In a very sick and twisted way, these killings probably save the lives of the families. The entire families of "traitors" are executed or put in a penal camp. If she's so brutal, why would she care about that?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because prisoners of war get food. The russian invasion of Ukraine has a logistics problem. They cannot keep the front lines supplied, so soldiers are out in the cold with no food, no ammo, and little hope of survival. There have been reports of russian soldiers seeking out Ukrainian solders in order to surrender.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand. The NK troops are fighting for Putin. If they become prisoners of war, the Ukrainians will be the ones feeding them. Why wouldn't Putin want that?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Putin doesn't want soldiers surrendering at all. He wants them to fight or die. NK soldiers may even hope to defect and trade their knowledge for citizenship and a cabin in Montana.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

OK, now you're making more sense. ~~But how does your previous comment make sense?~~

I think I finally get it. You meant that Russian POWs would get food, and thus they are surrendering. I still don't see what that has to do with shooting North Koreans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

in the cold with no food

Not OP, but I was assuming cannibalism. Hungry Russian soldiers need food.

I remember hearing that Afghan soldiers brought goats with them on longer missions because live food doesn't spoil.

Or maybe just fewer mouths to feed with via the Russian supply lines

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Why?!

Putin claims these are Russians from Russia's far east regions, often specifically Buryatia. He is afraid to look weak in the eyes of Russians. AFAIK to this day he hasn't acknowledged that he uses Iranian drones either.