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The United States shot down more drones and missiles than Israel did on Saturday night during Iran’s attack, The Intercept can report.

More than half of Iran’s weapons were destroyed by U.S. aircraft and missiles before they ever reached Israel. In fact, by commanding a multinational air defense operation and scrambling American fighter jets, this was a U.S. military triumph.

The extent of the U.S. military operation is unbeknownst to the American public, but the Pentagon coordinated a multination, regionwide defense extending from northern Iraq to the southern Persian Gulf on Saturday. During the operation, the U.S., U.K., France, and Jordan all shot down the majority of Iranian drones and missiles. In fact, where U.S. aircraft originated from has not been officially announced, an omission that has been repeated by the mainstream media. Additionally, the role of Saudi Arabia is unclear, both as a base for the United States and in terms of any actions by the Saudi military.

“U.S. intelligence estimates that half of the weapons fired by Iran failed upon launch or in flight due to technical issues,” a U.S. Air Force senior officer told The Intercept. Of the remaining 160 or so, the U.S. shot down the majority, the officer said. The officer was granted anonymity to speak about sensitive operational matters.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I don’t know if this ventures into conspiracy theory territory or not but in real time, I thought the Iranians had essentially told the U.S. what was coming and to prepare for it because Iran wanted a show and to test Israel’s air defense systems without provoking a war.

When it happened, one of my friends was like, “Great. World War III.” And I said I didn’t think so because Iran announced that they had launched it all as they launched it all. You don’t announce, “Here come some bombs!” to the media when your goal is having them actually land.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's not conspiratorial thinking at all, that's just geopolitical literacy. Your assessment is correct: Iran planned this carefully to avoid causing any major damage. This was pro wrestling.

Which honestly makes it sad to consider that Iran has become the more restrained, rational actor here. The US needs to put Netanyahu on a short leash. He is not worth this.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (20 children)

I suspect Netanyahu wants a Trump presidency. I don't expect him to do Biden any favors - quite the opposite, really.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This. The "Genocide Joe" cohort doesn't realize they are falling right into Netanyahu and Trump's plan. I mean, at least the small number of them who aren't propagandists in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

I would hold my nose to vote for Biden if my vote really counted, but I will still call him genocide Joe. If he continues down this path, I hope he is forever known as Genocide Joe. Let history know it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They don’t give a shit because the genocide is already in progress. Also these people are very real, real enough to make an impact on the primaries. You liberals really just can’t help but constantly condescend to anyone who doesn’t do what you want them to.

It’s hilarious watching liberals try to blame their campaign failures on “Russian bots”. It’s always someone else’s fault

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This was millions and millions of tax payer dollars spent for “pro wrestling”. Damn that’s sad. 😆

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

The main point to announce it was so they would get shot down. If they had reached their targets that would be a war they would lose very quickly. This way no harm was done. But now the people in charge in Iran can tell everyone in the country look how we attacked the bad people. Kind of like when north Korea talks a bunch of shit to everyone then launches a missile to no where. They can brag about it in country how they almost fucked up Japan and no one is the wiser because the only news coming in is things they ban see internally. Iranians saw the missles and drones leave their airspace then get told lies about what happened.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

They did the same thing back when you guys turned Qassem "Kotlett" Soleimani into a fine paste. Announcing an air strike, notifying the target in advance and declare victory. Noone was killed in their retaliatory attack.

While the Mullahs have fucked up Iran beyond recognition, their handling of crises like this is pretty good.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's a lot of money we're spending because of Netanyahu's crazed bloodlust.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (7 children)

...aight so fuck Israel in a "your genocide is abhorrent and you don't deserve any support from anyone" kind of way, but if we're going to support a genocidal ethnostate anyway, at least we're doing it in a way that stops civilians from betting blown up, as opposed to handing them half a military's worth of bombs for them to drop on other civilians.

Now that that's taken care of, could we maybe take the we're planning on sending over to Israel for them to do even more genocide with, and send them to Ukraine or something so they can fight against genocide instead?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Jordan shot down a lot. Jordan has roughly as many Palestinians as Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

Jordan directly not really. The American bases in Jordan shot down the drones.

The Jordanian monarchy is heavily corrupt and bribed by America. They receive billions in weapons and bribes to suppress their population and turn the country into an American outpost near Syria and Iraq. Last year they got $1,619,118,868

A prime example was the Tower22 base that got bombed in the beginning of this year

Currently there are massive protests in Jordan against their regime.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Apparently the drones were aimed at military targets only, unlike Israel’s attack on the embassy.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Israel: bombs a diplomatic target without warning

Iran: bombs 2 military targets with warning

USA: shoots down most of the assets that made it even close to Israel

Biden: Biden reportedly told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that “Israel really came out far ahead in this exchange”

I wonder what game they're playing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Netanyahu is trying to stay out of prison, like Trump, so he needs conflict but not too much (losing support from his right wing coalition wounds end him) to seem strong and as a distraction and for political points. Iran doesn't want war but doesn't want to look weak and want to make a point to not let Israel think there won't be consequences, they can't just do nothing at all. Biden doesn't want war in the region and he's focused on negotiations to calm everybody down, preventing escalation. If Iran had hit something important it almost certainly would've escalated to war.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not happy paying taxes to support this.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Shooting down Iranian dron3s and misses should not be your breaking point lol. This was the most justifiable action that has taken place since this shitshow started shitting.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

It's not the breaking point (that was long ago), but it's not justifiable either. Protecting Israel no matter what crimes they commit has led us into a genocide. This merely demonstrates that the US could have protected Gazans from Israeli bombs but chose not to.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They were firing at military targets because Israel assassinated one of their generals. If Israel wants to start a war with Iran while they have their hands full with Gaza and Lebanon that's their perogative but the US shouldn't be enabling this insanity.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Saving lives is one of the few things I support our tax dollars being used for.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Healthcare, here, for our people please

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Your tax dollars are shielding nazi military targets from retaliation, whilst arming them to commit genocide.

This wasnt saving lives, it was saving Israeli soldiers.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Avoid those freedom potholes with pride, citizen.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Biden won't put US military members in the way to deter an actual fucking genocide...

But he's scrambling jets to protect uninhabited areas in Israel?

This isn't just him supporting a genocide anymore, he's not making logical decisions. He's said for literal decades that nothing will ever make him lower his complete support of Israel, and he keeps showing us that's true

Someone with that kind of loyalty to any foreign government for any reason should disqualify them from holding at least the presidential office.

It was bad when Trump was like this with Russia, and the whole Dem party agreed.

Then Biden does the same shit and suddenly it's ok?

Fuck that noise.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Iran hurting almost nobody is in everyone's best interests.

We don't need Israel vs Iran lobbing missiles at each other or marching to attack each other. Shooting down every single Iranian rocket was the fastest and simplest way to peace.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (23 children)

I don’t like that Biden is supporting Israel, but I’m not going to put him and Trump on the same level. Trump moved our embassy to Jerusalem. Biden has allowed a lot of shit I hate and don’t want us to be a part of, but acting like they’re one and the same is not helpful. Especially when we would have had boots on the ground helping Israel if Trump was in office.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (11 children)

The Iron Dome is looking pretty rusty... I wonder how much Likud diverted to private accounts in the Caymans.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

That's the real story at the bottom of this mess.

  • Israel was warned about the attack a month before it happened.

  • 4 billion dollars in US funding that was supposed to go to Israeli defense somehow didn't work.

  • US is having to privately ship weapons to Israel behind congress and senate approval.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

The Iron Dome only protects against short-range rockets. Israel's Arrow and Arrow II Endospheric and Exospheric anti-missile defense systems are what most of the missiles that were intercepted by Israel were shot down with.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Iran’s government with its tail between its legs. I hope the people of Iran one day get better leadership.

Good job on the USA and its partners in making sure there isn’t any more victims.

To those of you doing that Whataboutisms, fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How could the leadership have handled this better? Actually hitting Israel hard and escalating the war? Do nothing and set a precedent that Iranian embassies can be bombed with impunity?

Iranian leadership sucks in a lot of other ways but they played this about as well as they could. They had to ride a fine line between a response tough enough to match the aggression of Israel and save face, but not enough that the u.s. would give Israel a blank check in escalation.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

mfw Israel is so well situated with the USA that they had an entire coalition force come to their aid for a tit for tat return strike

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