Who else would you give puberty blockers to 🤔
this post was submitted on 18 Apr 2024
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Well duh, you need to give those kids actual HRT to help them. Of course puberty blockers aren’t enough !
You're supposed to have therapy before you start doing things you can't undo, among other things to make sure it's actually the child's choice.
Which is why blockers are useful. Either way, you've minimized potential harm.
Do you have to get therapy before tatoos or plastic surgery
And almost all hormone effets are reversible
From experience, "therapy" is just gatekeeping
hrt does permanently affect fertility in both men and women so it's not something that can be fully undone, hence the therapy requirement.
you must be absolutely sure before committing to it
We are talking about blockers, not hrt. Hormone blockers effects are reversible, and with hrt fertility is the only thing that's getting affected in the long run, but still you don't need to get therapy before getting a vasectomy.
Id like to add to the original comment that my body has been destroyed by an unwanted puberty and that yes, not getting blockers prescribed has harmed me
the comment you responded specifically mentions hrt though
Oh sorry I completely misread the original two comments, sorry about that. But still, while I do agree that you usually want to minimize potential harm, I still want to insist that therapy is not a good way of knowing if a person is really sure of it and it often into an infantilizing and unpleasant experience
I always wonder when people transition very young, I'm 40 now and I have felt many different ways throughout my life, and it changes every 10 years. I would be scared to make such a big decision at that age. Good for them if they know what they want for life but 20 year old me was convinced he was gay, but I'm not and know that I'm 40 I have zero attraction to men when I was very bisexual in my be 30s. Anyways. Humans are weird that way.
That’s the sad thing here—puberty blockers give kids, their families, and their healthcare provider time to figure things out before the permanent changes of a dysphoric puberty.
And puberty blockers have been used for decades for cis-kids without any controversy—but for trans kids—apparently that’s a bridge too far.
The Cass report found exactly what it was commissioned to find, and misrepresents the research.
The science is clear, gender-affirming care saves lives.
https://www.apa.org/about/policy/transgender-nonbinary-inclusive-care.pdf
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/19021/AAP-continues-to-support-care-of-transgender
I'm glad it's the right decision for them. Transition regret is real though, so ignoring it isn't good. But even asking questions to educate myself gets me downvoted, so it's no wonder people don't want to ask or learn
Edit: so again, even asking questions and trying to learn gets you downvoted. No wonder you guys can't win people to your side
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/
I guess that one percent can go fuck itself and die according to you guys
Knee replacement regret is real and much higher than transition regret. Ban knee replacements!
Nobody is saying to ban it you extremist, why don't you understand nuance? Are you so one dimensional?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/
So by your logic, the people who do have regret should be forced to stay in their gender, hide and not be allowed to detransiton. Making you the thing you hate, a transphobe.
Good job they actually did a review into this. Rather than just setting a narrative and going with it, even silencing doctors that have alternative views.
What about children who enter puberty too early?
uhhh read the sentence again. slowly.
if I understand correctly there's no point in prescribing them to adults right? like irrc puberty does continue till like 18 or 19 somethines but it's probably already too late at that point?