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Anybody seeing this who's a big Lemmy booster/advocate pay close attention to OP.
Lemmy's problem isn't the software, or the servers, or even a lack of content. The thing holding Lemmy back is the people.
Power tripping mods and just fucking intolerable users are actively turning off new users from the start. If you want Lemmy to grow, don't tolerate the bad behavior.
Yup. Even after spending 4 months blocking the most rancid portions of Lemmy, its still almost unusable because of the moderation and radicalized echo chambers of users.
Example:
Quote of the first line out my mouth yesterday morning to my wife "I fucking hate conservatives" (I had just gotten done reading a bunch of conservatives cheering on the FASCIST police intervention at UT Austin).
Despite that, the conservative instance is one of the best moderated spaces on Lemmy. I go in there and shit talk their beliefs, and they debate me with sources.
Meanwhile I'm banned in multiple news groups for not agreeing implicitly with one of the power mods and banned in others news groups for arguing with racist vegan theory.
This fucking website is devolving into shittier small circus tents. Might as well be clown cars.
If the first words out of your mouth in the morning are "I hate (insert just about anything here)" ya might have a problem.
I do have a problem with rising fascism destroying constitutional rights in America.
If you don't have a problem with that, you're part of the problem.
So, Dr. Lemmy, what do you diagnose me with? Empathy for my peers? Rage against the Machine?
Imagine reading my whole statement endorsing a conservative political space and this being the bit you wanted to pedantically bicker about.
The bit criticizing fascist violence.
Ladies and gentlemen, exhibit A.
What about that statement are you exhibiting to who? Your bs being directly addressed?
You can't respond in earnest because what I said is true so you speak to an imaginary crowd instead as a coping mechanism.
Enjoy crying to nobody.
You want a direct answer? Fine, you asked for it.
You're the problem with Lemmy. You and other wild-eyed, foaming-at-the-mouth political zealots.
If you introduce me to a carbon copy of myself - one that agrees with every single opinion that I have - but he had even a fraction of the zeal and obsession that I see here I would be running for the hills.
It's off-putting and downright terrifying to see evidence that people capable of such obsession exist outside of asylums.
You didn't address anything I said. Ironically, you just had a foaming at the mouth meltdown because somebody is of a different political orientation than you.
My post had 2 political topics:
How much I hate the conservative endorsement of political violence against their fellow citizens.
I endorsed the moderation of the conservative instance on Lemmy as the best I've seen on this site.
You didn't address either of these points.
I disagree with you, but that doesn't mean you should be banned. I hate censorship whoever it's against.
This is what I'm talking about. We should be free to disagree, especially in non safe spaces. It was a fucking news sub, not a vegan space.
If you just ban everybody you disagree with, nobody will ever care about your beliefs.
Moderating against hate speech can be really difficult nowadays with risk of being sued. Anybody managing a forum or comment board of any kind has got to cover their ass, and censorship grows each day.
Theres definitely a lot more hate online now, though, people hold back a lot less in anger than they do in any other state.
I wish there were more opportunities to be parts of healthy communities. So sick of the, “that’s not what the topic of this community is.” Maybe I’ll try to make my own community, but again…. Moderations both necessary and really hard to do right. Lines to not cross are hard to make, and harder to stick to permanently.
Agreed about moderation being difficult. I get that. I just hate that these communities are going to be choked to death by garbage moderation before this site really gets going.
Is this the conversation you're talking about?
Thanks for the context
As an admin, I can see you just mass downvoting things and just being combative and rude (including targeted downvoting specific users). Perhaps the ego trip and problem lies inward.
Hello,
I wouldn't pay too much attention to OP.
I am the "another moderator interaction" they had today. They wanted to remove their post, but for some reason the removal hasn't been acted yet on my instance, so it's still available here, at least for some time: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/11547421
See you around
Don't worry, I left the key quotes on what was civil vs uncivil according to what you singled out of that thread in another comment.
My deleted post won't prevent them from having access.
This is a great place to highlight, the problematic quote from me was
"Sorry you have bad taste" to a shitposter in a post of mine.
Right here, an admin is saying "I wouldn't pay too much attention to OP".
These both sound like a method of invalidating the input of another person to me.
For those who want to know what this admin is referencing:
I made a post in the movies sub this morning. I was notifying star wars fans there was a theatrical re-run of Episode 1 on May 4th so they should grab their tickets now.
A group of shitposters came in being assholes ranging from saying Star wars is bad to personal attacks that people who like star wars are insufferable.
People who make their whole personality about Star Wars, or Star Trek, or Marvel Comics, or whatever...
Are just as bad as potheads who make their whole personality revolve around the fact that they smoke pot.
Direct quote of one of the commenters
I simply said
"Sorry yall were born with bad taste. Hope it gets better".
And the mod specifically singled me out as they followed me from this thread.
The other comment is still up.
I only started mass downvoting super mod activity as of today in response to yet another moderator interaction. Don't try to frame the way I interacted on this site before this post with my reaction to moderator harrasment since then.
Yall can keep your modlog to yourself, and your personal attacks.
Yall are literally stalking me across different posts to start shit and now trying to dig up additional personal information to frame this profile. You call defending myself from yalls harrasment "combatative".
The only power a user has to combat yalls harrasment is the downvote button or posting and opening themselves up to further harrasment. A downvote is a legitimate form of interaction and is exactly how I plan on interacting with every super mod post going forward.
This all happened after this post, not before it, and I've had dozens of perfectly fine interactions with dozens of users on this site outside of the mods.
Enjoy preventing interaction by constant tone policing.
And I've barely used this site, but the metrics are showing it going down. The mods are literally in another thread, crying to each other about "shouting to the void". So maybe you are coping by pinning the death of your subs on one user who does not appreciate the harrasment.
Well now you know why you are losing users.
Yall pick fights with legitimate interaction in the name of civility to protect shitposting.
Edit: another mod just wrote a long personal attack justifying their behavior again. Deleted it, but I saw it.
I thought it was just a couple problematic mods, I didn't realize yall were forming a mod clique in private dialogues baking this behavior into the community.
Please leave this community.
I am asking this calmly. The vocabulary ("choking to death", "star shit", "one user who is sick of yall") you use doesn't fit with the atmosphere we want to have here.
There are plenty of other communities here when you can have the kind of interaction you enjoy having.
Have a good one.
Hey, I've edited the tone of the targeted communication. Does this fit your guidelines?
I understand you have power over both communities and have personal beef, but would it be fair for me to ask a different moderator to input here?
Can you remove yourself due to a conflict of interest?
Can you make a post of the overall discourse that mods can be directed to instead of hashing it out in my thread? My post here is being derailed by personal attacks and you are choosing to kick me out.
This is kind of my entire point about singled out harrasment by stalker mods.
Thanks, you also have a good one.
The edit is better.
About the conflit of interest, feel free to ask input from another mod, but I noticed I'm usually quite lenient on this community (as you may have noticed, I usually ask people to edit their comments rather than remove / ban as you may experienced in other communities).
Also, it's Sunday, people have probably other stuff to do, so you probably won't get an answer until tomorrow.
I thought it was just a couple problematic mods, I didn’t realize yall were forming a mod clique in private dialogues baking this behavior into the community.
There are only a few people keeping the whole thing running. Be it mods, regular posters, admins. I literally just stumbled upon Admiral Patrick in another community talking about the last X-Men show. It's more of a small town environment where you stumble upon the same people everywhere rather than a cult with gurus.
Which comes back to your point about harassment. In my case, I didn't plan to encounter you on both of the communities I mod, but here we are. Would you have posted on [email protected] or [email protected], it would have been a different story (and the mod team on [email protected] isn't really lenient. Trust my, I'm permanently banned there after I suggested changes to the community).
So it's more of a coincidence than harassment (at least in my case).
Hello,
Any examples of communities where it happened? Sometimes you can escalate to the instance admins if the mods are power tripping
It was the news@lemmyworld instance.
I pinged one of the admins but no response.
Good luck with that. There are other news communities such as [email protected], Lemmy.zip tends to have pretty laid back moderation
Thanks for the recommendation. I look forward to participating in groups worth supporting.
If you open a new community to talk about dietary choices I'll subscribe and even comment there. Let's be the change we want to see
It wasn't a diet community, lmao, it was a news community.
That's what I mean, I disagreed with vegans in a news sub and was banned.
No problem. I will subscribe to your new news community, that you can moderate to your own liking. And you will prove that the discussion there is better and it'll grow and defeat the other news communities. I'm happy to help you
You are right on that, even FB is now ending with the content moderation, and that's good for sure.