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Yesterday (19/08/2023) everything worked fine. Today (20/08/2023) I can no longer login to Twitch using Firefox. I restarted browser and cleared cache. No change.

EDIT: I tried again after 30min and it works again. I have some privacy-oriented plugins but I don't play with custom useragent.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 2 years ago (1 children)

#You can edit titles on Lemmy

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Now there's a community I'd follow!

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hm weird chromium announces update to stop allowing ad blockers and suddenly no one allows FF to work in their website.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just chiming in as a software engineer. My product DOES support Firefox, but there are some weird animation quirks that my team has been trying to solve, but with limited bandwidth and a full product backlog, it’s hard to justify spending too much time supporting a browser with such small global utilization. Especially since we’re using third party libraries like angular material, quirks on smaller browsers can be a nightmare to chase down

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago

Oh I fully understand a smaller company having a website that says “some animations may not work with your browser” when it’s obviously easier to just do chromium as that covers almost every browser, but fully disabling the entire website when it works just fine as long as you tell Firefox to say it’s chrome is a different story.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

They need that greed

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Someone else had the same problem. Check this thread for suggested solutions. https://lemmy.ml/post/3612554

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/supported-browsers?language=en_US#firefox

Twitch's official stance is to support the latest two versions of Firefox. Are you modifying your browser agent string at all? Or using any plugins that are privacy/ad-blocking related?

[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or using any plugins that are privacy/ad-blocking related?

I mean.... Of course.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I mean, that's probably the "problem." At least directly. The real problem is Twitch obviously, but it's not that Firefox isn't supported.

Edit: so I guess it's not so much that it's not infuriating, but I would give up Twitch before Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Yep, pretty much my exact thoughts.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is because you are resisting fingerprinting. You have to allow fingerprinting to watch twitch in a browser now.

Honestly, chatterio & streamlink is a way better combo.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Step 1: Disable Twitch adblocker.

Step 2: Log in to Twitch.

Step 3: Re-enable Twitch adblocker.

That's what worked for me.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago

I have had this exact issue for so long now. What always works for me is a simple reload.

Also unrelated, but still want to say it: Fuck every single browser based on chromium!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Weird, I'm watching Twitch right now with Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Me, too. I haven't re-authed in a while, though. Do you get the error if you log out and log back in?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Btw there's no point in using Privacy Badger if you already have uBlock Origin.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (7 children)

They don't block the same things every time, so it's perfectly fine to have both.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

The more lines of defense the better

EDIT: to the dumbfucks downvoting this comment I’ll clarify so you can learn something today :

uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger are not the same thing. Privacy badger is focused on blocking trackers but wont block ads.

uBlock origin will try to block trackers based on a list, but it might not be updated or exhaustivew That’s where privacy badger comes handy, it should pick up most of trackers that will go through uBlock origin.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's not how this works.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Ublock origin blacklisted trackers list might not be exhaustive so privacy badger will pick up.

Btw I’d love to have a nice explanation on how it works if you think I’m wrong

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Posted this in another comment, but this is why:

Thanks to disclosures from Google Security Team, we are changing the way Privacy Badger works by default in order to protect you better. Privacy Badger used to learn about trackers as you browsed the Web. Now, we are turning “local learning” off by default, as it may make you more identifiable to websites or other actors.

From now on, Privacy Badger will rely solely on its “Badger Sett” pre-trained list of tracking domains to perform blocking by default. Furthermore, Privacy Badger’s tracker database will be refreshed periodically with the latest pre-trained definitions. This means, moving forward, all Privacy Badgers will default to relying on the same learned list of trackers for blocking.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/10/privacy-badger-changing-protect-you-better

It's just using filters like uBlock Origin since the training was considered a critical security issue that fundamentally broken. The article is the devs talking about it in more indepth.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

It's the deep breath before the plunge.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

General rule of thumb: If you suddenly encounter issues with your webbrowser, always check with another, clean profile. Preferably without any extensions.

Especially site-specific ones.

Glad you got it working again.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Check your enhanced Tracking protection settings and see if its at strict. Another user had the same problem here: https://lemmy.ml/post/3612554

It works perfectly on my end:

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Must be something local to you or twitch CDN. I just tried on the same version of FF from West Europe and it worked.

Have you by chance changed your useragent?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Im on Developer edition and dont appear to be having an issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Any pop-up or JavaScript blockers?

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