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[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago

"Go investigate yourself."

..is... is that supposed to be a western liberal tough talk or something? Performative parenting at its worst.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

“Well, we have police departments investigate themselves…”

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

"We are continuing to press them for additional information."

"But why not why not have an independent forensic investigation, which the Palestinians are calling for?"

As Hunter Thompson said, to ask the question is to answer the question.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

According to this article, IDF claims the dead were buried there by Palestinians, the mass grave was checked by IDF for hostages' remains, then re-buried, and IDF does not tend to Palestinian remains in Gaza:

The Israel Defense Forces on Tuesday rejected Hamas’s allegation as “baseless.”
It said forces searching for Israeli hostages had examined bodies previously buried by Palestinians near Nasser Hospital and had returned the bodies to where they were buried after they were examined.
It has been documented that Palestinians buried their dead at the hospital grounds both before and while Israeli troops operated in the area.
The location of that burial site was geo-located by experts to the same location where Hamas officials claimed to have discovered the new mass grave.
Generally, the IDF does not tend to the bodies of slain Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. ...
The United Nations rights office claimed that some of the bodies were “found with their hands tied and stripped of their clothes.”
The IDF, in its response, said that during its operation in the area of Nasser Hospital in recent months, troops examined corpses that had been buried by Palestinians on the medical center’s grounds, “as part of an effort to locate hostages.”
The military said it operated in a “targeted manner,” only where it had intelligence that Israeli hostages may have been buried.

Curious if there is anything to this or if it is just another false allegation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Some of them were buried with their arms tied behind their backs, or otherwise had evidence of summary executions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Hamas is known for torturing Palestinians, especially suspected collaborators, this was what made the green prince defect.

Edit: Added citation for skeptics like NoneOfUrBusiness

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's... A shitload of copium. Like seriously, I know you're shilling for the IDF but you can do better. I doubt Hamas has killed 400 Gazans in their whole history.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Even if you don't want to hear it, nothing I wrote was inaccurate.

Sources I've read said some of the bodies were reported as bound, not all 400. Many may just be victims of war/ collateral damage/ normal hospital deaths.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Even if you don't want to hear it, nothing I wrote was inaccurate.

I know; but the conclusion is frankly ridiculous. First of all you do realize that the mass grave didn't exist prior to the IDF arriving right? Hamas was fighting a was before that thing was discovered and had no chance to occupy anywhere and cause this much damage. The IDF would've blown the whole place to oblivion instead of piecemeal bombing it like they did. And second, they were bound using plastic bindings the IDF uses to cuff its prisoners. And third, many were also covered in plastic and hastily buried. Again, something only the IDF would do.

It's an IDF-made mass grave, no two ways about it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Curious if there is anything to this or if it is just another false allegation.

Hmmm tough choice

https://x.com/GUnderground_TV/status/1765727065897095174

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I love this. Saved.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

They cant seem to get off the "israel said so" train. Refusing to even consider an alternative. Is there no way to get a different member of the international community involved enough to run such an independent examination? Or is everyone else sitting on the fence watching to see how yhe play ends?