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[–] Baku@aussie.zone 83 points 11 months ago (2 children)

A couple of years ago I found a black and white photo from the late 1800s and wanted to figure out what station it was from. Google was useless and only showed unrelated stations, but surprisingly, Bing found a page with the exact photo on it. It was on one of those shitty scraper pages that just lists thousands and thousands of random photos, but nonetheless I figured out what station it was

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Jesus Christ I guess I’m not misremembering.

Bing’s reverse image search is essentially dead in 2024 unless you’re uploading the Mona Lisa. It’s really, really terrible and even worse than Google.

My favorites right now are Tineye, Yandex, and Google, in that order.

[–] net00@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Strange, for me Tineye has not a single time been able to identify ANY of the images I ever tried. Yandex has worked best for me

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Same, tineye only ever worked for me if I uploaded a picture that was by Reuters or something and therefore on lots of reputable sites. In any other cases it found nothing.

[–] Baku@aussie.zone 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

My last experience with bings reverse image search was in 2022 or so, so no vouches for its quality these days. I've had mixed results with tineye, but there was another one which I don't even remember the name of that generated reverse search links for all the search engines, I think it even listed that Chinese one and a few others I've never heard of rather than being its own thing. I had decent luck with that, I found Bing still worked the best but I haven't tried it since

Google lens definitely wins for object search though. Not the point of the post, I know, but it's kind of funny how their reverse image search is dogshit but their object recognition is flawless

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Please please come back when you remember the name of what you’re talking about.

I would search for it myself, but you know, it’s not 2003 to 2022 anymore.

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[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 79 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It does seem like the ideology of those inside google went from "tech" , to "I know better than you do". Not sure it's fixable really..

[–] ArtificialLink@lemy.lol 18 points 11 months ago (5 children)

That's the problem with most tech these days. They assume they know the best way to do something or know better than you. Its infuriating

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Spotify is a prime example of this. There are so many "features" I hate and that no one has asked for, yet shuffle doesn't even work.

Everytime I start spotify in ny office after listening on my commute, it tries to start playing on my phone since that was playing in my car.

Or when I was still there, Reddit search. Absolutely useless and so fucking smarmy with that stupid doge.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean by "shuffle doesn't even work"? Please qualify that statement.

[–] businessfish@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

they may be referring to how spotify's shuffle isn't a true "shuffle" in that it is biased to things you have listened to more, recently, etc

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[–] TheCorminator@lemmy.ml 48 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] Zibitee@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Very interesting article. Prabhakar Raghavan's basically Ted Faro.

[–] savedbythezsh@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

That was great, thank you for linking! I expected to just skim it and ended up reading the whole article and the follow-up

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[–] Klear@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Unrealistic. I usually have to scroll way down in the results to find a link to wikipedia nowadays.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

So true. If I want to know how old a celebrity is, first result is something about their latest work that doesn't mention age, and then the next 3-4 are usually some ranking articles, "top 10 ceberities you didn't know were 50," and then Wikipedia comes in with the answer.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago

Best erotica books 2024 listings occupy the first 5 positions.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (4 children)
[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 72 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I don't even care if the results are good. I'm not about to use any part of RUnet.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Why noy? RuTracker is better than any other tracker, open or private.

[–] CCF_100@sh.itjust.works 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to make the assumption that a lot of people on Lemmy are FOSS enthusiasts and are therefore adverse to anything closed source, especially a Russian web service...

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What? We're talking about websites, not software here

[–] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Guess what websites are made of

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Oh I know this one!

It's pipes, right‽

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] robdor 7 points 11 months ago

I thought it was dump trucks

[–] jeremyparker@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago

Apparently the brigade has found you, but i want you to know that i agree (mostly). Obviously it kind of sucks tohavve Russian as the default language on everything you get from there, and there's some super-obscure music I've failed to find on there, but it's basically my first stop these days, whether it's Abbot Elementary or CompTIA training videos.

[–] jeremyparker@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Honest question: why not? Facebook/Google/Microsoft are up to some disgusting shit, are their Russian counterparts significantly different?

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 months ago

Privacy, for one thing. I don't use Google, Bing, Windows, or any Meta software*, and Yandex aren't much different.

Security, though, is another thing. I live in a NATO country, and I would imagine the Russian government are monitoring Yandex (and other RUnet services). Frankly, I think contributing any data to such a government would be against my interests.

There's also a lot of censorship on RUnet. Yeah, Google has that too, but Mojeek and Brave Search do not.

TL;DR: Google is data-hungry and supplies data to the NSA; Yandex is data-hungry and supplies data to the Kremlin; Mojeek and Brave Search are good; DDG and Startpage are the best for the average user.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Don't be a pussy

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Yandex reverse image search often works considerably better than Google's.

And their translator too. I use it all the time for Latin. Google Translate was made mostly for Romance and Germanic languages, so it sucks at assigning the right case to Latin, and the word order is often a mess. Yandex was however made with Russian in mind, that is ~~syntactically~~ EDIT: grammatically* closer to Latin in those two aspects.

*case division is morphology in this case.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Oh you too are versed in the language of Romance?

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[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I can't use Yandex as it just makes me complete endless capchas

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] jeremyparker@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does that mean it should have its time wasted? Anti-robot bigotry is at an all time high and I, for one, think it's time for change.

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[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 months ago

It’s a little less awful when you’re not on a VPN, but even if it had twice as many captchas, it’s reverse image search is so much better than Google’s and Bing’s how that it’d still be worth it.

Also consider Tineye.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Russian search engine

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

I rarely have to use it, but for me it works every time.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Perversity and males in Japan. Name a better team.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would bet money they're not from or in Japan. On this particular 4chan board you can choose any flag you want when posting.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

They could be Weeaboo expats in Japan, but I agree definitely not born and raised in Japan, you can tell by how they write English.

[–] PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Guns and schools in America. Name a better team.

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[–] Legend@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 11 months ago

There is a firefox addon for it called search by image not sure how good it is tho as i have never used it .

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