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In my opinion, the Reddit Blackout was essentially moderators acting as a personal army for app developer.

Even goes the ancient rules of redditquitte

Ask people to Troll others on Reddit, in real life, or on other blogs/sites. We aren't your personal army.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was a 14-year Redditor that contributed both to them and app platforms. Nuked my account on principle because of how they decided to treat the community that built them. Nobody asked me to, I acted on my own discretion because it was (in my view) the right thing to do. Same reason I ditched Twitter.

The mods were acting on the same basis - they had supported a platform that made decisions they opposed. It wasn't in service of anything other than doing the right thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's almost a year later, we've seen other applications have switched to a monthly bill model and are still running fine.

So again, moderators choose to users from using subreddits because they choose to be personal army for their favourite app developer.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

AFAIK apps like Infinity are not paying anything because they're currently considered "accessibility tools", although I'm pretty sure they are still subject to a rate limit and a restriction on being able to view any posts labeled or mislabeled as NSFW.

As for the ones who aren't exempt, I guess they're reasonably comfortable with the position they're in, personally I can't say I'd be. One months notice to rugpull an entire API featureset? No thanks. Long prior notice, planned deprecation period are the industry standard, with extensions as necessary. Things work differently in FOSS, but Reddit is not a FOSS project.

I feel like Spez got upset Apollo was featured in the Apple ad and they weren't.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is the first unpopular opinion I’ve seen that’s truly an unpopular one. Through this lens, I’ve been a personal army for Victoria, people that think Alexis Ohanian is an idiot, people that think transparency to unpaid moderators is important, and people that think API pricing matters. I didn’t realize I was such a troll.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You should never be a personal army for anything, it's in the rules of internet.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

It looks like from your definition of "personal army" its impossible to perform any overt act or have any passive inaction and not be labeled someones "personal army".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Personal army" is a stupid quote from 4chan. It says more about you than the other guy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Aww, did 4chan upset with you their pictures.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I like 4chan.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If it was an app developer who precipitated it, so what? It had to be someone. That does not invalidate the choice of everyone else who participated in it. If you're going to hold an unpopular opinion, it should be a better one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The mods forced their choice upon the users of Reddit.

Plus it was a stupid concept since to find an active subreddit person just had to go to /r/all

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Taking a look at r/all one day, after many years of only seeing carefully-chosen subs that were actually good, was definitely one of the things that got me to finally quit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I choose to quit for munch different reasons because moderators are dumb.

I got banned from /r/news simply because the British Broadcasting Corporation choose to change the title of the article...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

There's a difference between rallying others to troll someone, and shutting down a subreddit you own. The mods weren't forcing anyone to "participate", they simply stopped providing a free service.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Upvote for being an unpopular opinion.

But a very firm what-the-fuck-ever for it being a dumb take on things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Reddit never offered a chance for apps to pay; this became very clear during negotiations.

Mods left because a lot of moderator tools developed by moderators requires API access and Reddit was very slow to develop acceptable internal tools. At that point, a lot of mods got frustrated and left.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

The vast majority of mods, including the organisers of blackout, are still using Reddit.

here is list of organisers of blackout taken from Moderator Coordination subreddit.

  • Femilip - active
  • Buckrowdy - active
  • TheSebtacular - inactive
  • LustyLizardLady - active
  • demmian - active
  • LunarOlympian - inactive
  • esoterix_luke - active
  • SpicyThunder335 - active
  • YourResidentFeral - active

So 77% are still active.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

You might be right, but I moderated three subs and haven't been back since June (or whenever it was they killed my app)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I didn't say all mods.