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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago

I think they misunderstood what about the steam deck is making it popular

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sony making their own Wii-U tablet but with less functionality?

Seems like a great idea, totally worked out for Nintendo

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Didn't the Wii-U mostly fail because most people didn't know what it was? The marketing and name were terrible and plenty of people thought it was just a Wii add-on or something.

The console itself was actually pretty cool, playing Wind Waker on it was great.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For me personally, Wii U was the worst console purchase I've ever made lol. If it wasn't for Smash, Mario Maker and Nintendoland with friends every once in a while I never would have turned it on. I honestly had way more fun with the Vita.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Maybe it's because mine is modded but I get a lot of use out of my Wii u. My switch on the other hand, collects dust.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly, dumb as this sounds, they can't lose. It's not a platform. There's no infrastructure. It doesn't even do cloud streaming, for some reason; it is 100.0% dependent on your hardware and your network. If Sony went bankrupt tomorrow, this gizmo would still work. If the hardware's sold at a comfortable profit and they're not gambling anything on its success, why wouldn't they launch this ridiculous object? They don't care if you don't buy it.

It's not a handheld. It's an accessory.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Well they can lose if they are stuck with unsold inventory. Also r&d costs that need to be recouped.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Playing on it so someone else can watch TV is great but has no value outside your home if it relies on your PS5. For gaming like this I will stick with the Switch.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Feels like PlayStations version of the Wii U not the switch

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Except without the GamePad's uses for giving one player exclusive information in local multiplayer or the touch screen actually being used in games.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

There's a a hands on post that says it will work outside the house. It just needs to be on a wifi network still.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not to mention all the same utility can be had with say a small TV or computer monitor and like a HDMI switcher for a little over $100. Maybe less if you find a good deal. I had a Wii U. The gimmick of the controller screen got old fast and it sucked pretty hard overall. Not looking to retry that failed concept.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Even comparing it to the WiiU, at least some games took advantage of using both screens.

This is just the tablet as a single screen, with none of the utility.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yup. That and, if a little more distance or wireless is needed, you can remote play to android/ios devices via PSPlay w/ dual sense and 3rd party controller support.

This is basically the non-techie or expensive taste version of the remote play experience as the WiiU screen added more functionality than mirroring.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I use my Switch exclusively for this. If this handheld can eliminate lag, I'd love to get it. But it's priced a bit too high.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh my God you idiots just bring back the Xperia Play how hard is that???

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Genuinely as hard as "bring back the NGage." Nobody wants to buy a smartphone that's also a console platform. There's no three-year contract required, and AT&T doesn't get to micromanage the dashboard, but it's still two wildly different commitments for no sufficient benefit. It means being stuck with a wonky smartphone on a longer console lifecycle and overpaying for a console with all the limitations of a smartphone.

By contrast - this is a controller with a screen in it. That's all. Why wouldn't they sell that? What's the downside, for them? You buy another accessory priced well beyond its material costs, you provide all the electricity and electronics necessary for it to do anything, and they don't care if you ever play games on it. It's not lashed to the success of yet another online store. It's not even a vehicle for recurring subscription fees. It's a dongle for another toy. They have no incentive to force it to catch on. If it doesn't sell - they'll just stop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's been over a decade since Xperia Play, and two since ngage. The market has changed, people are now spending a grand on phones, gamers are now buy some very expensive hardware for their hobby.

The biggest hurdle would actually be the Google Android rules about accessing Play Services on a device that would also need its own store for PlayStation branded games.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Don't recall mentioning price as an obstacle.

The fact people are buying expensive-ass phones is an obstacle to any console trying to be a cell phone or vice-versa. Phones already play modern-ass video games. Any new iPhone is surely more capable than a Switch. Who's going to be swayed into buying some custom Sony bullshit just to access an entirely separate wallet vacuum?

If Sony was going to release a handheld, it'd just be an under-powered PS5 variant, as a Nintendo Switch knockoff. AMD would be happy to provide appropriate chips.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the issue is always going to be games. Who wants to make games targeting such a small userbase? Half of the Android games don't even have good controller support (looking at you Genshin/Honkai)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I feel like Sony is the kind of company with enough muscle to get them to add controller support.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (11 children)

For 100€ more you can get a steam deck. Just saying

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So you need a $500 console to use a $200 handheld streaming device that doesn't have bluetooth so you probably will also buy a PS Link capable headphone that'll cost another $200.

Those are some big bucks to avoid using steamdeck or switch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

It’s intended for people who already own the €399 console.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Who owns wired headphones these days? It’s not 1875 anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I have at least four pair in my house right now. Two of them can also be Bluetooth headphones, but they have the option to plug in if need be.

The Portal should have Bluetooth. It really should. But the argument that people have to buy their expensive headphones is obviously not true when there is the alternative present (which, by the way, is the option a lot of people complain about iPhones and Androids not having any more).

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I see a lot of comparisons to steam deck but none to Xbox.

You can literally use any phone or tablet for the same function as this with an Xbox, in addition to cloud streaming most game pass games without needing an Xbox at all.

If we saw Microsoft releasing an identical device I bet there wouldn't be a single person defending it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can also use any phone or tablet to remote play on PS5.

What you’re buying here is convenience. A dedicated device with the exact same controller setup as an actual PS5, with the same features (haptics, triggers) and a nice screen with basically plug and play setup.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

The article doesn't seem to mention what OS this has, but if the earlier leaks are correct and it's android, you could even use this to do that very same Xbox streaming.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I was on board with this for 150, 200 is just too much for it though

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

What I haven’t seen anyone mention yet: Since the Remote Play protocol is already reverse engineered (since there are open source remote play clients like Chiaki), it would not seem difficult to create a 3rd party Remote Play server for use on any PC. You could use this to stream your PC games on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

im more interested in the ear buds they announced. planar drivers for $200 or the over the ear with a mic for $150 are good deals afaik.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

There's no way that Sony of all companies could have charged less money for it. Goes to show how aggressive Valve priced the Steamdeck.

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