Hmm...one of these seems more important to do than the others...
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Recycling right?
Recycling is literally the least important thing you can do (despite still being important).
The phrase "refuse, reduce, reuse, repurpose, recycle" is listed in order of importance.
I hate that they added more shit. "Reduce, reuse, recycle" was perfect.
"refuse" is literally the same thing as "reduce"
"repurpose" is a subset of "recycle"
What the fuck is it nowadays with wanting to tack on more useless shit to perfect mnemonics? Especially for a mnemonic whose entire point is to prevent wastefulness.
It is also important to mention that most plastic recycling still ends up in landfills. Plastic recycling was sold as myth by big oil and plastics companies to make consumers think the waste problems magically disappeared.
Recycling your glass bottles won't negate the effect of a private jet taxing or a yacht sailing for 20 seconds even.
Always recycle. But don't compare it to the incredible environmental impact the rich has on the planet. Everyone has equal rights of polluting. Some polluting is just necessary as a human life require energy to sustain. The rich and poor have the same quota.
The corporations made me buy a big ass SUV
They gave you the options you can choose from and they all suck.
There are plenty of options that arent trucks or SUVs
Sure. But where's the option of a sedan where I can detach 75% of it when I just need to drive someplace alone? Where's the electric car with 300 miles range under 30k?
You can hate on trucks all day long, and I do too because trucks suck, but we're still stuck with horrible polluting expensive options that were designed with efficiency of cash flow as their primary goal.
bikes? mopeds, motorcycles? you dont need 300 miles of electric car range. none of this shit is any excuse to buy a big ass SUV
Right give me electric hatchbacks and sedans. Then start funding public transit as we fix North American infrastructure gore.
Fix the transit first. It is far more environmentally friendly and it is more accessible to more people.
No guillotining on a Monday then.
You still can, but you should promptly refrigerate. It is very important to keep food out of the danger zone of 4°-60°C, that's 40°-140° in school shooting units.
Meatless Mondays doesn’t go far enough. It should be everyday. Meat is murder.
I'm sure with that attitude you'll surely convince a lot of people. /s
I’m not vegan to make friends. I do it for animals rights and the environment.
Being less of an extremist about it would result in fewer animals being eaten, though.
In other words, you are killing animals via your attitude.
Lmao why I’m responsible for your actions? I don’t financially support animal exploitation and murder. You need to stop eating animals and get with the times. That is a lame excuse and you know it.
If you want to learn more of where vegans are coming from then watch Dominion 2018:
So when you don't have any actual arguments against their point of view, you resort to criticising their 'attitude'. I see
And when you don't even try to ask my point of view, you resort to assumptions.
Serious question, what could possibly convince them?
We all learnt about the atrocious living conditions on factory farms long ago. We all know that the meat industry is terrible for the environment and climate. We learnt about the avian flu being spread on cattle farms, with owners hiding the cases from the authorities, with 0 regard for public safety. We all know that migrants and children are systemically exploited by slaughterhouses, many get PTSD or become alcoholics, some get severely injured or die because of accidents.
Yet after all of that, meat eaters still happily give their money to these places every time they go to a supermarket or restaurant.
The meat industry got people so hooked on animal products that they can get away with basically anything, change my mind.
We should have toxic vegan zealot free Mondays on Lemmy.
May I ask you nicely then? Because I think they have a point...
Pretty sure it literally is not murder, since that requires killing another human. I do love animals, but I will never agree to put animals and humans on the same level. I don't want animals to suffer and die horribly cruel deaths, but other than that I do not care. I do not eat much meat nowadays, but that is because meat is bad for the environment. I care a LOT more about that, then about animals being killed.
If you do nr. 3 the others will simply happen pretty much by themselves.
I'd argue if you just did #3 while changing nothing about the way we run our society, we would just need to repeat step 3 later down the line as new oligarchs and monopolies form and exploit us.