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    [–] [email protected] 127 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    when you're the OS, they let you do it. you can do anything.

    [–] [email protected] 65 points 10 months ago

    Grab 'em by the kernel.

    [–] [email protected] 56 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    Literally yes

    This was pretty informative and shocking.

    And then Chris Titus made this video

    They literally record everything you do, at least if it is a "Copilot plus" PC with a "neural engine".

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

    Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

    Literally yes

    Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

    I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

    [–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    For people who say you should read the contract before agreeing to it. What about the hundreds of thousands? No, millions of people buying new windows laptops every year. Are they presented with any kind of agreement? I don't think so.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

    Oh they are when they first set up Windows

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    [–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Maybe I'm missing something, but what is the damage in this screenshot?

    [–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    High background resource usage.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Ah, the light blue between the 2 lines is background usage? I wouldn't know, I use Arch btw :3

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

    Thanks for asking. I'm using Debian and didn't know either. :p

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    I too have used arch btw. Currently using pop (deb) tho. I hop around from time to time.

    [–] RamblingPanda 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

    Stop distro shaming.

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    [–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Pretty funny how it says "Unauthorized access" right below screenshots of features clearly being enabled.

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    But in the end of the day, there is no intended way to turn off Telemetry fully.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Could airgap it, but then you’ve airgapped it..

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    [–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    nah i don't care that you're using windows who the fuck still uses eclipse

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Eclipse is Free Software and as such it is valuable even if better commercial options exist.

    http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#EPL2

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    [–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    To be fair, the access is authorized

    [–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    Authorized without consent. That is what Louis Rossmann calls a rapist mentality.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

    I agree with that dude’s takes but he rubs me the wrong way.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Users explicitly and willingly click on "I agree" to the Terms and Conditions. It might be undesirable, but it is consented

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Yes and no. While you are legally in the clear, in practice no one read those because of the huge amount of legalese.

    True consent is only obtainable if the person consenting understands what it means. Or else it's just legal consent.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

    "just legal consent"... I mean sure, but you know how stupid most people are, right? There is no way to get the type of consent you want from them for any slightly complex topic.

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    [–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

    "Authorized" in the sense that even if I set all these options to No, a future Windows update will reset them and not tell me.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

    Authorized by not denying...

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    "Windows malware" increasingly sounds like pleonasm

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    I agree with the general sentiment but it literally says it will update outside of active hours. So as non-disruptive as possible.

    And the privacy toggles are set when you install the OS. You can untick all of them the last time I checked.

    Sorry for being such a pedant

    [–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

    but it literally says it will update outside of active hours.

    Yeah, but it lies.

    And the privacy toggles are set when you install the OS. You can untick all of them the last time I checked.

    But a future Windows update will reset them without informing the user.

    Microsoft respects user choice about as well as Republicans respect voting rights.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Has what you said been proven and documented anywhere? All I can find is threads of people claiming things, but no actual (investigative) journalism that covers these parts.

    Toggling on data collection without informing the user would mean billions of dollars worth of fines in Europe, so I doubt that happens regularly. Still, I don't mind being proven wrong if you got the proof to back it up

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

    Yeah, but it lies.

    No it doesn't, at least not if the update isn't already a month overdue

    But a future Windows update will reset them without informing the user.

    I've done 3 years worth of updates in one day cause I needed too. Pretty much everything was reset including registry edits, but the privacy toggles were one of the few things that stayed persistent. Maybe it's a EU special feature (wouldn't be the first), but at least here they won't change back silently.

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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago
    [–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    ITT: Libertarians advocating for corpos with rapist mentality calling it "consent".

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

    This stuff affects the user experience too. I’ve been able to daily drive Linux at work for a few weeks now. Restarting and booting into windows, after being used to Linux on the same hardware, makes windows feel like the slow, cobbled together OS that you can get for free.

    I mean, we’re a Microsoft 365 company like many others, but even things like Teams and Outlook feel more responsive in Firefox in Linux than in the native apps on windows. Even video conferencing works great.

    This difference isn’t exactly new to me, and I’ve used Unix or Linux sporadically over the past couple decades. However, using it as my main work OS has really highlighted the differences. Hell, even the multi-monitor support is better!

    And this is with Mint Cinnamon installed, not some cutting edge or lean & fast distro.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

    always been. In fact all proprietary program is a kind of malware.

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