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I was held for two hours. The first round of questions was about my views on Hamas. Then the agents wished to know whether I thought Israel’s actions in the Gaza Strip amount to genocide and what I think of the slogan “Palestine should be free from the river to the sea”. I said yes, I do think Israel is committing genocide. As to the slogan, I said that in my view people anywhere in the world should be free.

Then the agents interrogated me about who I know in the Arab American and Muslim American community. They asked me to provide them with telephone numbers, took my phone away for quite a long period and asked to wait until they made some phone calls before they let me go.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wow, there is really some shit going on in USA, we would usually only expect from a totalitarian regime, and absolutely not from a democracy.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well that's what we get for letting Trump win... Huh? What's that? Biden is still President?

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Created by GW Bush in 2008, passed in 2009 :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_Security_Screening_Selection

Not all laws are recent you know.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Presidential administrations have a huge amout of discretion in how they administer the law in our system. Just look at the way border security processes constantly change despite no new legislation being passed. And you know that very well. If Trump was in office, you would absolutely put the blame at his feet.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Last time trump was in office, people were rightfully blaming him for a lot of shit he publicly acclaimed.

On his watch, you don't need to dig for reasons to hate him, he gives quite a lot of those.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

AFAIK the basis for these checks were established under Bush. So mostly designed by Republicans and not democrats.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

we never fixed them

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

We've had two Obama terms and one entire Biden term since then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Damn it's so sad no democrat president was elected before yesterday, but now that a non fascist is in power I'm sure those unjust laws will be repealed any second

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Wow, there is really some shit going on in USA, we would usually only expect from a totalitarian regime, and absolutely not from a democracy.

The biggest issue is that the Biden administration is laying the pavement like they are.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This happens in almost every countries customs, its not unique to the US

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The first round of questions was about my views on Hamas. Then the agents wished to know whether I thought Israel’s actions in the Gaza Strip amount to genocide and what I think of the slogan “Palestine should be free from the river to the sea”.

In a situation like this, the only correct answers are "lawyer" and silence.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you are detained at foreign border security, unfortunately, you don't have guaranteed legal rights to a lawyer. They can unilaterally ask for statements, seize property given up for search, or deny entry on any grounds.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Airports are their own legal zones, similiar to embassies, in US? What the hell?

or deny entry on any grounds.

I thought that's the only thing they can do?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's a 100mi border zone around the coast where you have no 4th amendment rights, and CBP likes to abuse that fact.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Wasn't it also 100 mile zone around international airports too?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Welcome to freedom!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's not how CBP works especially for non citizens. I tell Americans this all the time and nobody believes it. Until it happens to them or someone they know.

You have zero rights. You can be detained without legal representation or cause for 72 hours thanks to the Patriot Act. Even as a citizen. Your electronics seized and spied on. All your social media, email, picture, everything read. It happens daily.

It happens more often to black and brown people and non citizens. But it shouldn't happen at all.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So basically a foreign national that potentially has connections to Hamas went through customs and got asked questions for two hours. Whats the story here?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They do mod/love to post in conservative communities

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thats a horrid thing to say, dont call people mods, its not polite. Quite uncouth I say!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I would tell the bums to look up the Warsaw Ghetto during WW II.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Then the agents wished to know whether I thought Israel’s actions in the Gaza Strip amount to genocide and what I think of the slogan “Palestine should be free from the river to the sea”.

Why are ostensibly liberal and democratic countries so interested in profiling or restricting academics who are trying to share our professionally informed views about Israel and Gaza with the North American and European public?

In addition to his academic post, Abu Sitta has practiced as a physician in Gaza and is able to provide first-hand testimony about what is happening there on the ground.

Many other well-known and well-versed academics who can provide in-depth analysis, which is not always to be found in the mainstream media, are also affected by the threat or possibility of travel restrictions.

Antisemitism definitions, such as those outlined by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, are weaponized to silence any show of solidarity with the Palestinians.

In the process I learned that only detailed historical research, which, alas, ended in a rather long book, can explain North American and European politicians’ Pavlovian responses to people’s attempts to exercise their speech rights on the Palestinian struggle.


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