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[–] [email protected] 211 points 10 months ago (11 children)
[–] [email protected] 71 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I’d just like to make the point that that is not normal.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Poorly built rocket

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[–] [email protected] 173 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

the explosion, which took place at its Boca Chica Starbase facilities

The raptor testing stand at McGregor experienced an anomaly

Well, which is it? I'm going to trust NASASpaceflight over this article and go with it was a McGregor. No where near Starbase. And that means it will likely have no effect on IFT4 as this article says.

edit: Adding to this, the author of this article has no idea what they are talking about.

The Raptor engines that are currently undergoing testing are SpaceX’s Raptor 2 engines

So clearly nothing to do with IFT4, as Ship 29 and Booster 11 are already outfitted with their engines, non of which are Raptor 2s.

On its last flight test, IFT-3, Starship finally reached orbital velocity and it soared around Earth before crashing down into the Indian Ocean. On the next flight, SpaceX aims to perform a reentry burn, allowing Starship to perform a soft landing in the ocean.

IFT3 burned up on reentry, maybe parts of it made it to the ocean, but it was not crashing into the ocean that was the problem. IFT4 does not plan on doing a reentry burn. No one does a reentry burn from orbit. Starship uses a heat shield like every other orbital space craft. They are planning to attempt a landing burn, that is probably what they are talking about.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It waw McGregor. And while the explosion was spectacular, it happened on the test stand, so not much damage was done actually.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah anyone following space YouTube has seen this a dozen times already and knows that it was a deflagration likely due to busted lines and not a detonation. The test stand is likely undamaged (In anysignificant way at least) and it was just an engine test of likely raptor 2 design. This has nothing to do with IFT4 or starbase as far as we can tell.

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (14 children)

Okay? It was on a test stand. That's what test stands are for. Isn't stuff like this almost a weekly occurrence for them?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Okay? It was on a test stand.

Test Pad, it was on a test pad.

The footage shows SpaceX’s engine test pad going up in flame.

The reason they use test pads is that iPads are too expensive.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No, it was a test stand at the McGregor rocket testing facility, it wasn't even at Boca chica (the place where all the finished rockets are launched from). This is not a big deal and won't affect their schedule at all.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I imagine they don't necessarily always fail explosively. I don't know how often this stuff actually happens.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 10 months ago (13 children)

Good lord, everyone please learn a tiny bit about spacex and the state of the space industry instead of letting your (justified) hatred of Elon do the typing.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I dont see whynanyone's surprised, anything Elon is touchung is tainted by association. It's not rocket science.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (5 children)

You're right, Elon Musk being associated with a company is negative. And what SpaceX has accomplished despite that association is truly impressive.

I think around here most people agree that billionaires don't earn their billions, they reach that point having benefited from the efforts of thousands of workers. So why don't we recognize those people's work? Somehow, SpaceX has managed to avoid the meddling that we see from Musk in relation to Twitter and Tesla.

Before SpaceX the U.S. was reliant on Russia's soyuz to get us to and from the space station. We didn't have anything that could launch people into orbit.

Before SpaceX we were launching single use rockets built by companies like United Launch Alliance (ULA), which was founded as a joint venture between defense contractors Lockheed Martin and Boeing. (They're still around and still for the most part suck)

And before SpaceX the cost to do anything in space was extremely prohibitive. NASA didn't and still doesn't really build their own rockets, they contract out, and the contracts had been cost-plus, meaning ULA got an agreed on profit plus expenses. So if the schedule slipped on development or development cost more than expected, they actually make more money. There wasn't much of a private market in space.

With SpaceX they created re-usable rocket components, re-established a U.S. sourced crew capsule, and using fixed price contracts they reduced the cost of launch by an order of magnitude. And by publishing fixed prices to get into space, they pretty much by themselves kicked off the private space economy. SpaceX launches more frequently than any other company, and more than any nation.

And they did all that with a better safety record than previous programs! I can't speak to this particular explosion, but SpaceX has taken an approach where they create new designs quickly, and test them quickly with the potential for explosions, before they put humans at risk on a live launch.

Elon Musk didn't do all that, the people at SpaceX did. And if anything I'm concerned about the point when he gets tired of fucking up twitter and tesla and turns his attention to SpaceX. I'm hoping the national security aspect of the company will mean responsible adults prevent him from interfering.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I’d have a lot more sympathy for this comment if people would actually do this in reference to Space Billionaires. I’ve had far too many conversations online and elsewhere where the individual shits on NASA for space industry problems and worships Space Billionaires because [some convoluted “government bad rich entrepreneurs good” reason] and their problems aren’t really problems. I’m not saying you’re part of the billionaire sycophant club, but I’m not against musk’s well deserved criticism as he sacrifices people in his rush, and probably work quality suffers alongside them.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 10 months ago

Remember when the FAA investigated SpaceX's violation of it's launch license over them ignoring warnings of worsening shockwave damage after their botched SN8 landing?

Pepperidge Farms Remembers.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago (4 children)

A few years ago (already) I would have been sad and shocked. Now I don't give a shit about SpaceTwitter. That douchebag managed to kill all the interest I had for space exploration, a topic I was passionate about for most of my life. He really is that kind of killjoy.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 10 months ago (14 children)

Why would you let that ruin all of space exploration for you? He's a dick. I don't give a crap about his company. But exploring the solar system is still absolutely amazing.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The people on lemmy are college kid level extremist on literally everything and it would be funnier if it weren't so exhausting.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Maybe he lost interest because of all the bullshit Elon Musk promised that came to NOTHING, remember a few years back he promised there would be manned missions to Mars now... NOW!!! MANNED MISSIONS!!! They were supposed to be well along building a base on Mars that should have started 2 years ago!!

Reality may seem kind of dull compared to the fantasies Musk promised.

Personally I never believed Musk for a second, and I thought Neil Tyson was a blabbering idiot for parroting him. But many fell for it, and my wife thought I was "negative" for not believing and agreeing with them!

But things like the James Webb telescope are 100% cool.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Does anyone else think the thumbnail looks like a llama with laser eyes?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (4 children)

NASA successfully launched Artemis 1 first try.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At a greater cost than every starship built to date combined...

Congrats?

I expect they'll be able to launch 2, perhaps even 3 more Artemis rockets before the program is cancelled and the rocket architecture abandoned due to unreasonable cost.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Where's your evidence proving exactly how much Starship has cost in total? Or wait, maybe you are just making bullshit up because you have no idea how much it has actually cost them because they don't disclose that information like NASA does.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Fuck this stupid company. No more federal funding for SpaceX.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Bruh its a TEST STAND TEST STAND this is not the Frist time a engine exploded on a test stand raptor engines in their development phase are supposed to explode. Elon musk has said if something doesn't explode then you did something wrong

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago

Well, if Musk said it, it must be true. /s

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe someone called it cisgendered.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hope nobody more valuable than their dumb CEO is injured.

Fuck Musk.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hope everyone was okay, the article doesn’t talk about injuries.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Personnel are evacuated from McGregor whenever a test is to be performed, just like they are with Starbase.

There is absolutely zero chance anyone got hurt. This isn't Boeing.

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