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[–] [email protected] 81 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Inb4 centrists "that's unfairly reductive! That's not what we're saying!"

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I think I hate centrists the most.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago

While I find centrists to be the most frustrating, I hate the bigots the most.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

Nah, hate the right the most, but don't let people try to invalidate your right to feel frustrated with status quo sluggishness

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What makes a man turn neutral?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lust for gold? Power? Or where you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Its sad that you conaider such an oppinion centrist. It shouldn't be.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Homophobes at Pride events wave a sign that says GAY= Got AIDS yet?

All conservatives are trash.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Using an acronym to make another acronym is totally cheating, too! "GAIDSY?"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm so meta even this acronym.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Took me a minute.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Can't violate human rights if they are sub-human

roll safe

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

And this is why speciesism is a root cause of so much human-on-human oppression. People unquestionably accept the premise that it's ok to exploit/murder/etc non-human sentient beings, so dehumanizing certain groups is incredibly effective at getting people to be ok with abusing them. If we rejected non-human abuse as well, there would be no incentive to dehumanize each other

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, you sort of have an argument there. But that's also a really huge leap: "If we can't stop people from refusing to value other people, let's just get them to value every living thing."

If you're at point A on the line, you're going to have to get to point B before you get to points C, D, or E.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

it depends how and why they're devaluing the other human. If they're basing it on dehumanization in order to exploit/abuse them, then that is in fact built on the underlying assumption that nonhumans are fair game to exploit/abuse, although they are also factually incorrect about the other humans humanity.

Strategically, it might be easier to get them to recognize that fact, or it might be easier to get them to accept compassion for all sentient beings and then point out the logical conclusions of that, it really depends on the person and situation, but I'm not talking strategy I'm just pointing out an often-unspoken root problem

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Nah, I only eat grazers, and actually don't devalue them for it. Vegans technically qualify but it's too much of a bother to make sure they're kosher.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago

And then conservatives parrot "wow I can't believe you say mean words to me just because we have a tiny difference of opinion on whether or not you should be allowed to exist."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

This would get likes on Lemmy and Truth Social.

Reminds me of this optical illusion except both answers to the illusion are correct.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

now imagine the Palestinian flag on that hat

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Now imagine a green penquin on a purple horse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I literally can’t tell the difference between these two extremists!

-centrists most of the time

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I believe I should have rights

Well there's your problem. This belief thing is a matter of subjective opinion. Objectively speaking, nobody has rights. The universe doesn't give a shit about our rules and self-imposed limitations. So any rights you want, you have to make people agree within our microcosmos. Anything beyond that is just raw violence.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Literally the fascist viewpoint btw

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No. It's not. Fascists believe the world is running a giant conspiracy against them, that they are unfairly prosecuted no matter if the evidences suggest otherwise. So by that, contrary to what you believe, they belive in the possession of an inherent right, albeit often tied to an esoterical religious or pseudo scientific reason like God or the color of your skin. They also belive you don't have, or don't deserve to the same rights because you are the conspiracy against them.

Fascists believes in fantasy. And what he is saying is an observable historical reality. Complete deferent thing. You cannot have rights if you cannot defend them. Black people would not be freed without civil war, workers would not have 8 hours work day and weekends without union. Every societal progress we had made is through force unrelenting. It is force, and sometime ultra violence, that we are able to secure our God damn rights.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Seems like y'all hate centrists very much, so I'll just proudly say my centrist opinion here. Obviously they should have rights. No buts.

(Yes to butts)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What are the rights that they are having withheld from them?