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Camera attacks and conspiracy theories: How Ulez became a vigilante battleground (www.independent.co.uk)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

There’s me thinking that the parts of the expansion to the North and South circulars were insisted upon by the Tory government as part of a deal supporting TFL in the COVID-era, and that all Labour’S Khan did was to tack on expansion to the East and West.

To clarify my stance: I support the ULEZ expansion. I think that the support to those who need to upgrade or modify their vehicles (including specialist and commercial vehicles) has fallen short.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I heard Khan on LBC the other day. The big problem is that the Tories brought in an order (I forget the name) that means all cities have a version of ULEZ.

Other cities have bought in their ULEZs but no one has kicked up a big fuss about it, only about London. Also, the Tories have been happily giving financial support to the other cities to help setup ULEZ but won't give anything to London.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I do think it's funny that despite all their machinations they only barely won that seat. It rather goes to show how much of a lame duck they are now.

And of course they are now facing yet another by-election where the constituents aren't particularly happy with the way the Tories handled the situation. Good old Nads, making life equally difficult for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People living in London are getting support to update their vehicles. The issue is people in the boroughs surrounding London who's councils are trying to fight it rather than solve the issue by helping the residents they're responsible for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't understand it isn't it just an extension of the congestion charge? I'm kind of confused why they're upset about this but not the congestion charge.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Because the congestion charge came in when politics was relatively stable in this country and social media and dodgy news channels like Gbeebies and Talk TV hadn't turned everything into an "us Vs them, they're out to get you and your way of life" outrage. Back then you could agree that something may be for the best even though it may mean you have to adapt a bit.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As someone who fought for months against unwarranted ULEZ violation tickets, this would be the reason not to visit London anymore.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@Treczoks London residents or workers may not regret that. If you do, in your newer car, or by train, you may find the air is a bit nicer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I've got a newer car, but ULEZ f-ed up and billed us nonetheless. We had to fight it tooth and nail and get a lawyer to get this fixed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you can't manage to get to and from London by public transport to visit, I don't know what you're doing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

As a tourist, I don't want to spend a few hours in the morning and evening just to get in and out of London. Getting in and out from Ealing already was a pain in the ..., getting even farther out has really no appeal. There are other places to visit in the UK.