Political Memes

Yeah this account basically just flipped to constantly posting Israel war memes a month ago.

Tired talking points.

"I know trump is bad, but democrats are worse!"

"Republicans at least show who they really are, democrats decieve their constituents!"

"I'm not for Russia, but Ukraine should just ceasefire, so there's no more bloodshed."

"I know genocide would be even worse under Republicans, but Genocide Joe should concede and let someone else run."

"Both sides are the same, so a vote for either side is a vote for the same thing."

in this thread where you’re talking about the Russo-Ukrainian war carefully without taking a side on the issue.

I think russia is in the wrong and deserves to lose, but I think Ukraine does not have the numbers to win on their own and I think the US knows this but is only really after hurting russia's economic ability to pursue their further imperial ambitions. Since russia has entered a wartime economy I don't think this is likely anymore and we are creating a situation where russia has no reason not to continue and a larger conflict with NATO is likely.

Does that help clarify?

Literally all you post about is “don’t vote Biden”.

Close: I post a lot of agitation for democrats to demand better from their party, and i've mocked the impulse to signal loyalty despite knowing what the democrats are doing is wrong, but I have never encouraged anyone not to vote. Democrats have no reason to address criticism if they are confident voters will turn out regardless, that's the impetus of my strategic agitation. I could be wrong and it could be misguided but I don't think it is.

You always capitalise[sic] Russia, but then generalise[sic] “the west”.

I don't know how to take this, considering it's a comment about proper capitalization that's filled with typos/misspellings. If i've ever failed to capitalize another country's name it isn't on purpose. Since you're more familiar with my comment history i'll let you point out which ones i've made that mistake in and I'll correct them as needed. I'll even de-capitalize russia if you want, i don't give a fuck.

So, how would one recognise[sic] an actual Russian troll, btw? Like… they probably wouldn’t admit to being one, would they?

I've repeatedly had this conversation with you, I don't feel it necessary to have it again. You can suspect me of being a troll if you want but since it's not possible for me to prove to you otherwise I don't think it's worthy of addressing. Mods can verify my IP address area if they feel its warranted. It's making me uncomfortable that i've attracted this much attention from you though, out of concern of being doxxed I'm thinking I should start using a VPN.

Please stop harassing me.

You always capitalise Russia, but then generalise “the west”.

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You're supposed to capitalize the name of countries, and not geo-poltical regions...

Hell, by your logic since you capitalized trump and republicans it means you support them and not that you're fighting autocorrect to make a very very small point.

So, how would one recognise an actual Russian troll, btw? Like… they probably wouldn’t admit to being one, would they?

One thing people look for is an unfamiliarity with the convoluted rules of English. Like not knowing what gets capitalized...

But by 2024 most people have realized social media comments rarely have that much thought put into them. If say a good way is looking at where they spend their time. We know from a recent study (can't be bothered to Google it right now).

But it's safe to say people with nefarious reasons for posting wouldn't spend their time on one of the smallest social media platforms.

Like, just think about it rationally for a second. Why wouldn't they do it on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, TikTok, or somewhere else their audience would be tens or hundreds of millions? Why spend the same amount of effort where even if it takes off, your audience is like not going to exceed more than a few thousand at most?

I'm just fucking tired of people constantly accusing each other of being professional state actors.

It's something trump would do...

They are more than likely a sock puppet of one of the banned spreaders of propaganda.

1. It is. Trump equals actual fascism in its full terrifying form, which is why it is a big deal to defeat him even though the current alternative are largely uninspiring corporate-friendly goons
2. Biden has paused some weapons shipments because of Israel's war crimes, and is pushing to stop the killing; the Republicans are specifically the party that's trying to override him on that and make sure they get their weapons and encourage them to do more killing. That doesn't in any capacity excuse 8 months and counting of the Democrats funding and supporting Israel's crimes, generally speaking... but it does make it a little weird for someone who cares deeply about the Palestinian people to single out the Democrats as the problem that needs to be addressed, in order to help the Palestinians.

i dont get it… broad democratic support === fascism?

No, the logic is actually:

Israel == a fascist state

Democrats continue supporting Israel -> Democrats are supporting a fascist state

Saying 'we are an anti-fascist coalition' is in tension with that coalition supporting a fascist state.

That's what fascism is, yes. The point being made, I think, is that Democrats are claiming to be anti-fascist while also supporting a fascist government in Israel.

I think they meant broad Democratic support, referring to the party

Thanks, edited

There being a reason for supporting a fascist state doesn't negate the fact that they are supporting a fascist state.

I don't even take issue with voting for Biden at this point, I just find 'we are an anti-fascist coalition' to be the most self-valorizing shitlib statement i've ever seen, especially when everyone here insists they don't support Israel's war crimes and think we shouldn't be defending them.

They don't get to larp unopposed as anti-fascist revolutionaries when they've quietly accepted the choice they've been given 5 months out from election day, at least not while I still haven't been banned for mocking them relentlessly. They should feel miserable about the shit choice like everyone else does.

Not Voting for Biden, voting third party, or not voting are avenues for a trump win. Your implication that we shouldn’t vote Biden, should vote trump, or not vote, is complicit in genocide. Trump has already stated that he will give Israel free rein to “finish the job”, therefore your position to not support Biden seeks to eliminate the overtures for ceasefire attempts by the current Biden admin.

So you’re either actively supporting Israel, supporting trump, or maybe both and a tankie tool to boot.