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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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Creatures of Place is an insight into the wonderful world of Artist as Family: Meg Ulman, Patrick Jones, and their youngest son, Woody. Living on a 1/4-acre section in a small Australian town, Meg and Patrick have designed their property using permaculture principals.

They grow most of their own food, don't own cars and ride their bikes instead, use very little electricity, and forage food and materials from their local forest.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

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"Forage for food and materials from their local forest."

Talk about burying the lede. They can only function on a quarter acre by "stealing" from the public forests.

If everyone did that there would be no public forests. There's not enough wood and food for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they don't grow their bicycles either!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He talked about community trade so I'll give him that. I don't want to give the impression that his lifestyle of living with less is wrong or bad.

I only question his sustainability claims when he is clearing the forest to heat his house.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really don't understand why you're nitpicking someone who is trying to drastically reduce their impact. What would you recommend they do?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That guy is exactly who people point to when they say climate change activists are insufferable twats. Lmao like sure bud keep eating your own, that's historically worked well.

The real answer to your question what would you recommend they do? Not listen to that guy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They explicitly said this wasn't the solution for everyone 😊

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I carefully reread the transcript. They don't say that anywhere.

He talks about sustainability. But if everyone lived sustainably like him the forest would be gone in a few years for firewood.

There are too many people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

there are too many people

This is the root cause of most of our problems.

Climate change is just a symptom of overshoot.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we want to have a stable livable climate we need to.live with the emissions of the average Cuban (Professor Kevin Anderson) That allows the worlds poorest to have more emissions per capita and the worlds richest to come down a lot, and by a lot I mean a metric shit load.

How we do that and what that looks like is up to us but if we don't soon, we'll likely collapse. civilisation anyway and none if it will matter and we won't be talking about it on here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Everyone should be poor, great!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

100s of millions are already doing this, it’s called poverty.