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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’ve yet to ever meet or speak with a libertarian that had any respectable amount of intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I'll disagree, slightly. They can also be:

  • starting from flawed premises (aka "The world is a just place" or "a just god exists")
  • Inexperienced edgelords
  • Arguing in bad faith (or just "I've got mine, so fuck you")

I say this as someone who flirted with libertarianism in my early 20's due mostly to a conservative religious upbringing. I'm not super smart, but I flatter myself to say that I'm above average intelligence and education, and there was still a brief time in my life when libertarianism served like a valid ideology. It took actually reading some objectivist philosophy and simultaneously reexamining and then rejecting my religious background before the flaws became evident.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

How do they not realise they literally give the best argument for the original proposal in their answer?!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Fascists: do fascist things

Liberals: correct their spelling, then allow them to continue because fascism doesn’t threaten capital

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There’s nothing wrong with home schooling if kids are meeting or beating national standards. What people doing home schooling need to remember is that college admissions are competitive af, so as long as you plan for that home schooling isn’t necessarily damaging or detrimental for child education.

Besides that, the U.S. needs higher national standards for stem at younger ages if the U.S. wants to train a globally competitive workforce. So while I respect individual rights to home school, I don’t think that home schooled students should ever be cut any slack on performance

Here’s some data https://www.hks.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/Taubman/PEPG/conference/homeschool-conference-slides-jolly-wilkens.pdf

Though there are other reports which say that homeschooled students perform better than public school counterparts by wider margins, but it’s hard to say without looking at the data and comparison points directly. I mean, it wouldn’t make sense to compare rich homeschooled kids against poor inner city public school kids

Edit: oh so the autist in me always forgets the social and emotional dev part, but that’s super important. As someone who was bullied in public school, I am not sure I have an endorsement for public schooling as a great place for social and emotional development. In fact, public schooling may even be detrimental for highly sensitive children.

The key issue is that not every parent has the time or resources to home school, so the U.S. needs well funded and globally competitive public education because the few rich or well resourced home schooled kids are not going to encompass the entire U.S. workforce, or indeed carry the work of the entire nation on their shoulders

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I work adjacent to education, and as such see a lot of high school transcripts come across my desk. The bad news is that there are absolutely tons of bad actors who use homeschooling as a way to indoctrinate kids to their insane, unsubstantiated worldview.

The worst news is that there's a ton of private schools and even some public schools doing it too. Schools across the U.S. are teaching creationism as fact, climate change as theory, and some of them even have the gall to consider their "Biblical Science" classes as honors level. If your only argument against homeschooling is indoctrination, it's not a very good one. In states like Utah and Oklahoma, you'd almost have to homeschool your kid just to make sure they're receiving a real education.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Is the distinction more than pedantic?

Edit: I get the connotation that being hung means your dong is admirable. But in terms of the past tense of hang, both hanged and hung seem to be valid options such as in "I hung the laundry". And the alternative, "I hanged the laundry" sounds wrong. So pendantry?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I've known many people who've participated in home schooling as teachers or students. A wide variety of "teaching" goes on, some of is just a more personal relationship with your child's formal education, on the other extreme, you have people like OP referenced.... and everything in between.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Libertarians of NH are famously stupid and terrible at everything though so I wouldn't worry too much.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do yall really want the GOP involved in what your kids learn?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I don't want any political party or their agenda involved in what my kids learn.

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