Technology

No, I don't want corporate social networks who farm data.

It will use activity pub....... until it gets adoption and then it will close the doors like they did with XMPP. Also its Facebook so anything they touch should be avoided like the plague. They have proven time and time again they are not to be trusted, they were in the Snowden docs & they have had numerous lawsuits against them.

https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/10/31/20940532/edward-snowden-facebook-nsa-whistleblower

"and if you don't know , now you know"

Meta has the capacity to make really evil products, let's not start the EEE treadmill.

I know this is not the right audience for this, but that is an exceptional move on Meta's side, and the timing is perfect. Meta has produced so much garbage with the metaverse and all that stuff, so this seems like the first good idea they had in a while.

I hate Meta even more than Twitter, so no.

Not. A. Chance. I will also encourage my mastodon instance to not federate with them.

No, I don't thrive in person-oriented media, I'm only ok with topic-oriented media.

I don't want anything else related to Meta...

I stopped using Fb years ago and had to use it again not long ago because I moved countries and the demographic here can't stop using Fb/Instagram/Whatsapp for everything related to business.

But if it uses ActivityPub (and from my understanding that's decentralized), couldn't I just use my Mastodon account to interact with people there? Would that mean that my Instagram (or, in this case, "Threads") account can potentially communicate with Mastodon accs as well?

No

Not likely in the slightest.

There's no way I'll actually use the platform, but I personally have no qualms with federating with it on my instances so I can communicate with friends who may be using it that haven't made the jump to the current fediverse.

Whether we like it or not, this is most likely the best chance for regular people to be introduced to the Fediverse and hopefully gain a good understanding of it, providing that Meta doesn't hide it from people too much or make it complicated enough that people are "encouraged" to use their platform instead.

Nope. Meta is a blight on the world. Musk, Huffman should buy Meta and start a competition on who can make it circle the drain faster.

The idea of getting involved with any kind of corporate media at this point turn to my stomach, especially after all this happened in the last couple years.

Why in God's name would anybody invest any time and energy into yet another corporate platform that will just be yanked, or turned into a nightmare when some corporate man baby decides he hasn't had enough profits to keep himself in new yachts.

I'm sick of it, have absolutely no intention whatsoever of participating in that crap anymore.

No. What's the Web 2.0 version of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. Because that. Oh, and because that company is toxic waste. No, worse that that. At least toxic waste comes with the promise that enough work would leave it inert.

The Meta Plan:

1. We're going to use ActivityPub because we love the Fediverse!!!
2. Now we're live, here's some improvements to AP, now they're not standard but we're working closely with the AP guys. It would help if you all pleaded with them to accept these changes- they're just to make things better!
3. Yay! All the changes were implemented and we've formed the AP Council, we might invite some of the old AP guys to it.

Good thing about it is that since it will use ActivityPub, all fediverse instances can restrict it and they'll lose a big chunk of possible content.

Nope I'm done with corporate-controlled social media.

I genuinely believe this could be successful.

Mastodon STILL has UX issues, and the rest of ActivityHub and the Fediverse are impenetrable to the average person. That will change over time, but in the meantime, I can't even get people to use Signal for god's sake, let alone explain which Lemmy instance is best for them.

I still have an Instagram because my friends do. Without Instagram DMs and iMessage, I lose real life connections. If they fold in a Twitter-esque client to Instagram, that I can interact with from Mastodon if I want? That sounds like a really strong value proposition to me, and is the only way your non-techy friends are joining this parade any time soon.

But also, we've got to make sure these massive companies don't snuff out what Lemmy and Mastodon are building. There's a group of suits somewhere right now thinking of how to monetise this platform, and we need to be prepared for that.

Definite NO.

No chance.

Coming at this from a slightly different angle, as I do use Instagram and it was responsible for helping my YT channel and therefore my business in general take off.

I'm already on Mastodon, so would have no need to use this. However, I've really come to despise IG and find interacting with it to be more of a chore than anything. So an option for my friends and viewers from IG to communicate with me without me having to actually log in over there? I can just stay on Mastodon and run everything from one place? Sounds fine to me!

(pending evidence of good faith as discussed elsewhere in thread)

Hello no. Fuck Meta and fuck Mark Zuckerberg.

Hard pass. The only reason I use Meta at all is because they acquired Instagram, and I'm barely on there as it is (but my family members are).

How many social network do they need to have?

I think I'm done with corporate social media.

Absolutely not. It's Meta, why would I touch anything Meta? :)

If given a choice between Mastodon (with all its flaws) and anything by Meta, I would always choose Mastodon.

Join anything from Meta? Hell naw!

Plus, it will be integrated with Instagram? Even further hell naw!

I will stick with Mastodon

Over my dead body. I'd never trust a single thing from Meta. Their track record is absolutely horrific in every way possible.

Hard No.

In fact I'd expect a large number of fediverse instances to defederate or silence the instance so that users who do not want to be bothered by it will not be bothered.

Unpopular opinion: yeah, probably. Facebook and Instagram have come a long way in tackling misinformation and hate speech since 2016. Obviously they aren't perfect, but now that Twitter is pushing that shit into my recommendations I want updates from my feed without having to support Twitter.

That being said I've never interacted with Twitter much, only used it for updates, so it's not like Meta will get anything from my limited personal data.

The main thing I dislike is that it will use the name Threads. Finding info on Thread, the network protocol for home automation devices, will be much harder. Might be niche, but annoying.

A snowball has a better chance of surviving in hell than me joining anything Meta.

No

It sounds like nobody will, but Instagram influencers are actually a different kind of population, it's actually rather clever of meta to transfer the verification status. We wont be just talking about influencers but also athletes and celebrities.

Personally I wouldnt open an account, but I wouldn't be surprised if these celebrity followers will create one for the fomo

No, but it will be funny to watch Elon’s reaction when it launches.

It's neat to see them using ActivityPub, but I'm really wary of anything created under the Meta/Facebook umbrella. We'll have to wait and see if they decide to act in good faith with this which my biases make me doubtful they will.

Also, if they're using ActivityPub, why would I have to join if I can just loop in with my existing Mastodon account?

No thanks, I’ll stick with mastodon. But if Meta’s version is enabled on the fediverse then I welcome it

No.

Easiest question of my life.

It's probably a good idea to limit/defederate with this when it shows up, as it's a vector for EEE and Meta will be doing the usual data collection shit they do with their users, but now with Fediverse users as well. They just got hit with a big fine for violating the GDPR.

I hope they get defederated immediately. There's not much more Facebook can do to prove they are a bad faith actor.

I can't trust big tech to do anything remotely good anymore, after what's happened with... well, basically every single social media platform owned by them. I'm sure I'll take a peek at it but I haven't touched Facebook or Instagram in years for several reasons, so I really don't want to give Meta any more of my attention.