Because NATO has never accepted applicants with active territorial disputes.
this post was submitted on 06 Jul 2024
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Yes this is one of the reasons Russian trolls talking points of NATO expansion fears motivating Russia to invade whiffed of bullshit from the beginning. By annexing Crimea Russia already made them ineligible.
Well,
in 2018 Ukraine voted to enshrine the goal of NATO membership in the Constitution. source
At the June 2021 Brussels summit, NATO leaders reiterated the decision taken at the 2008 Bucharest summit that Ukraine would eventually join NATO.
Is "dispute" really the right word? Lol
Yes because it started years before the war with the annexation of Crimea.
Ukraine is not a whipping boy and yet NATO seems to think it is.
If Ukraine had been allowed to keep their nuclear weapons none of this would be going on at all.
Ukraine could have kept its nuclear weapons... but Ukraine did not have proper leadership that could maintain such posture. These people would/could not run the state efficiently enough to fund a nuclear weapons program since they were mostly Russian plants looting the country. Corruption over national security has consequences... people need to hold their leaders accountable for their blunders.
They couldn't have kept the weapons. They were being guarded by Russian soldiers, and Ukraine never had the activation codes. They got the best deal they could giving the USSRs nukes back to Moscow, rather than risking Moscow blowing them up in-situ. Moscow threatened that at one point during the talks.
Give Ukraine back their nukes!
A year? Feckless Americans holding back statements again, it seems. Europe is certainly in for the long haul. Also plenty of countries not ruling out boots on the ground. In fact the US not having a clear stance of "you use tactical nukes we're going to put them onto Ukrainian soil" or similar is yet another instance of fecklessness.
You may think yourself smart and strategic but in the end you're a salami, sitting there motionless, being sliced.
Everything russia and their cronies fearmonger, EU and USA should do it.
Ukies puppets of west. We fighting NATO now already. Oooga booga Nooks!
NATO forces should have been in Ukraine a long time ago. All russia will do is be actually impressed, put a brave face on and moan of another Uncrossable Red Line.
Let's see what happens with all these weapons when the war ends.. I expect a big amount of gangs will be well armed..
And they will get spare parts how?
Africa
As is tradition. (Only sort of /s)
Ukraine: Joins NATO. Russia: Runs for the hills. Ukraine: Everything goes back to normal.
The childish rhetoric and illogical manurisms of Zalinsky are profound. Its never dawned on you going to war with a superpower is extremely bad. Watching him go off and his emotional roller coaster the past few years has been painful. Defend your country. Here's the support you need. But we aren't stupid.
As for widespread corruption. Yeah. There's lots of flags.
For every 100,000 dollar missle we send them that cost use 10,000 to manufacturer. We buy ourselves 9. You're not even weaking our position.
going to war with a superpower is extremely bad
Russia isn't ready a super power any more and Ukraine definitely didn't have a choice on getting invaded.
Just like we didn't see all this coronavirus shit coming. Nor could we ever do anything about it.
wait wat
To their credit we couldn't do "anything about" the pandemic because of how many morons and suckers there out there.
Or at the least we failed to do what was most effective.
Right so you're an expert negotiator that thinks you should never ever ask for more than you think you'll get because you're afraid some people on the internet will write that you have "childish rhetoric and illogical manurisms[sic]"?
Ukraine is currently using ATACMS rockets to soften up Russia's air defenses in preparation for using the F-16s that'll soon be arriving. It seems the "childish rhetoric" is working. I guess Zelenskyy will just have to accept that people that can't even spell his name might think less of him. Oh well...
Theatre. Very much so.