If someone does transphobia, I instance ban them whether or not they did transphobia in one of my communities.
this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2024
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Good for you. It's important for your self esteem to feel strong and powerful.
Good for you. It’s important for your self esteem to feel strong and powerful.
In the context, this implies "Ada is solely doing it for the sake of her own self esteem". I don't think so; a simpler and better explanation is that she's building a safe space for trans people, and the sort of people who'd spout transphobic shite elsewhere would make that environment unsafe.
So the situation might look on the surface similar to the one in Reddit, but deep down it's nothing alike:
- Blahaj - the admins are transparently dictating who does not belong to that instance, and that is done so the instance stays true to its goal, by manually removing disruptive elements.
- Reddit - the admins play make-believe that "erryone is welcome here!", then you have mods outright contradicting what the admins say, for a thousand reasons (from the reasonable to the petty and anything in between), with a bot that boils down to "dat uzer posted in [sub], so I assooooome dat the uzer is [whatever]!".
Apples and oranges.
Well put
it's important to make sure regular violators of social contract are properly ostracized from communities where their toxicity is unwanted.
Eh. Blahaj and beehaw kind of have an obligation to over-protect their instances and users.
That is not “over-protection”. Trans rights are human rights.
I'm being supportive of that.
Also I’m blocking you for being complicit.
I believe they were trying to say that it's the right thing for the Blahaj instance to do, because many of the users there belong to groups that are frequently targeted by hateful people. They likely meant to say something like 'extra protective' not overprotective.
You do you, I guess.
I'm not trans but, thank you. Everyone deserves to feel safe being who they genuinely are (except Nazis and slavers, they deserve help being better, if they'll accept it).
That's pathetic.
You’re projecting
Found the meme the parent comment reminds me of lol
Posted on r/KotakuInAction by any chance? I usually run into this kind of complaints because of that sub.
My personal take is that subs that ban people just for posting on other subs are actively perpetuating their little opinion bubbles. They are essentially creating little virtual prisons for their members, and most of them are actually happy about that, which in turn tells all I need to know about those members' intellectual laziness. To twist around Groucho Marx' quote, I would refuse to join a sub that rejected me for posting elsewhere.
I would get in trouble for randomly arguing with antivaxxers.
Attempting to police whom people are allowed to communicate with is a standard tactic cults use to manipulate and exert control over their victims. it's part of the BITE model of authoritarian control.
Although I for one generally don't care to meet or talk to transphobes, racists, fascists, or traditionalist conservative types who simp to the peer pressure of dead people, I will not stand for some third party trying to make the judgement call FOR me. I don't need some meddlesome middle-man gatekeeper superimposing their expectations upon me. Gatekeepers (who try to control OTHER people's gates) go on the same list as the tradcon bigot scum. It's MY business who I choose to talk to and why. And I also make it a point not to police who OTHERS get to talk to.
That's against the mod guidelines, as you can't ban people based on what they do/don't in other subreddits, even when it would be sensible to do so. Sadly, the mod guidelines are toilet paper.
Something similar could theoretically happen in the Fediverse, but usually this is handled through defederation instead.
Hence why I’m here now instead. Use Reddit on my laptop every once in a while as a search engine. I figured it might be against some rules. Totally ridiculous. Screw Reddit.
Welcome here. If there is one thing that Lemmy differently than Reddit, it's power tripping mods. If someone bans you from their instance, you can still go to another one. Hopefully you will find one that fits with your expectations in terms of moderation.
Same goes for communities, some are quite heavily moderated, some are less. It's up to you to find the ones that fit with you.
Also, as a new joiner, you should probably have a look at [email protected]
I find the mods are much the same. There are examples in this thread of mods doing the described behavior
As I said, the difference here is that mods and admins have limited power.
There is some power tripping, but thanks to the public modlog, they get called out, and users move to other communities. Takes a while, but better than Reddit
Large Reddit subs are not for discussion, mods enforce the right think and wrong think will be banned.
Boy do I have some news for you...
yeah here in fedi we cut out the middleman and prevent you from discovering a community at all if your account is on certain instances
I got perma banned from reddit because I was a smartass to another smartass on reddit. Guess what? They're from Colorado. A garbage state with garbage people
You have been banned from /r/Colorado.
Oh no! What ever am I supposed to do? I guess still talk shit about Colorado