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With the republican party going full fascist yeah it's probably a good idea not to vote for them.
At any level much less the fuckin presidency.
But that means voting for an genocidal imperialist who'd rather keep pushing that pro-capitalist agenda and sucking up to Fortune500 companies. ~Some leftist, probably (/s)
They do said Democrat aren't left at all, and the real left is anarchy or something.
Well that's true. It's just that anarchists prefer the centrist party over the openly fascist party, because we don't want to live in a fourth reich.
Correctimundo!
I've been told the true leftists would rather live under fascism dejure then compromise their morals by lending any support to the democrats.
Yep, the Russian trolls sure are saying that a lot
Thank you for saying this. I'm so tired of them gaslighting every conversation pretending like they aren't bottom feeders crawling out of the sewers every election cycle.
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Anarchists prefer to not waste time by putting so much fucking energy into electoral politics. Vote, if you want (I'm not your Boss), but don't spend sooo much time into electoralism.
It's a small amount of energy to materially affect the environment in which you expend real energy on your praxis of choice. If you're not enthusiastically voting at least lesser evil, you're hamstringing your own praxis.
I'm not talking about the act of voting itself. I'm talking about discussions, canvassing and campaigning for some lesser evil candidate.
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don't tell me what to do
I didn't, just described the consequences
WTF does my enthusiasm or lack thereof have to do with it.
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I don't know a single anarchist that 'prefer the quietly fascist party over the openly fascist party' most of them prefer to DA the military contractors that are party to the latest american-supplied genocide.
Well, now you know one. Kamala is firmly against Netanyahu's genocide, and I think after she's no longer reliant on Joe for her campaign money and connections, she'll be a bit more active about her opinions. She's a good candidate. The DNC is moving in a good direction. It's time to apply some positive reinforcement so they keep doing the good thing.
Kamala is firmly against Netanyahu’s genocide
The American supplied genocide which was the explicit policy of the Biden regime she was a part of. The administration that repeatedly bypassed congress to supply genocidal settlers with ammunition. Got it.
If I waited for a candidate who's perfect before I got invested, they would never come because the politicians would realise anarchists aren't invested and don't vote. I'm supporting an imperfect candidate who is better than anyone else we've ever gotten, because I'm hoping next time they choose someone even better.
If you won't reward your dog for doing a little trick, how's it going to learn to do a big one?
If you won’t reward your dog for doing a little trick, how’s it going to learn to do a big one?
The actual analogy here is that you're rewarding your dog for not doing any tricks, and expecting me to be so impressed by your ability to train your dog that I also decide to feed them treats for doing nothing
For a dog who's been trained for 50 years to support genocide, not supporting genocide is a pretty impressive trick. And Kamala doesn't support genocide. Doing nothing deserves a reward.
She's literally second in command for the administration wringing its hands about the bodies piling up but continuing to send weapons and aircraft carriers to protect the colonial occupiers.
Was dick cheney not part of the bush admins crimes?
The one 'anarchist' who has managed to talk themselves into supporting american war criminals
She's not first in command. I'd volunteer to be guilty by association too if it meant I could stop the funding of genocide when the 80 year old kicks the bucket. Who knows, maybe she's been slipping poison into his coffee. It's what I'd do.
So Dick Cheney not complicit in Iraq or Afghanistan at all? got it
I don't know who that is. I'm too young and too foreign to know all the American presidents
Lmao but here you are browbeating people to vote for another American war criminal, deeply unserious
He was one of the architects of the War on Terror, and was the Secretary of State when the first Iraq war happened. Dude was literally one of the masterminds of this shit, so their comparison is just absolutely worthless.
Of course he's complicit, he had an active hand in starting both of those, which you're not going to be able to convince me Kamala had. The situations are entirely different, and you have to know the only connecting thread is the office, not anything that actually matters like their behavior.
But good try using a shit example to refute their point.
You seem to ascribe a lot to intent. Cheney participating in the Bush administrations wars lead to profiteering off a situation they created, Kamala is getting promoted for her complicity in the ongoing genocide to being the president herself.
I just can't take for granted that someone willing to be complicit in shit like that is going to suddenly have a change of heart once she's in charge.
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So this eventually boils down to : you're an american, so you are complicit too.
Which is not how it works (except in religious fanatism).
Was Dick Cheney complicit in Iraq /Afghanistan?
Im not playing degrees of Kevin bacon here, that's why so many people have been shouting at Democrats to dial back the genocide, if they're towing the line they're complicit.
Are you sure you're an anarchist?
A lot of leftists are claiming real leftists don't vote lately.
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