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[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 49 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Temporarily embarrassed millionaire syndrome. "I can't vote against what the rich people want, because what if I become rich some day?" Completely missing that they, in the course of their entire lives, will not make as much as what most of the rich assholes of the world make in a day/hour/minute/second.

EAT THE RICH.

[–] Veticia@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

You forgot the part where rich make sure that poor remain poor.

[–] BatrickPateman@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hard to believe people work sixty hours. Got a decent living over here in Europe and am currently reducing from 40 to 35, just because.

[–] maliciousonion@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you forgot to type '/s'?

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

No, why would you work 60 hours a week?

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Because rent is going up 30% a year while pay is going up 3%.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Because you paid out the wazoo for it

[–] maliciousonion@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It seems you are the only one who is laughing about that :)

[–] maliciousonion@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Everyone doesn't live in 1st world countries.

I'm in one of those places where people barely make a living even after pretty much working to death. I am still a student and I have been lucky enough to be born into a more fortunate family. I don't have firsthand experience, so I will give an example.

A good example is my teachers. They have a 6 to 5 job 6 days of the week, and their monthly salary is equivalent to 865USD.

The fact that I can use the internet and tech as much as I want is a blessing

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

the amount of equivalent USD is mostly meaningless in regular life. What matters is what you can buy in that place for how much they make. And also what you have to buy and what goes besides your paycheck (socialised healthcare in scandinavia vs higher wages in usa for example).

For example within Europe: yes, wages are way lower in eastern EU countries than in some western EU countries, but so is the price of coffee, the rent etc. That only becomes tangible when you travel.

[–] maliciousonion@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's an underdeveloped country, everything is imported so prices are much higher than what you'd expect. The government is corrupt, there is no free public healthcare or education.

You simply can not sustain a family without having one of your family members in a foreign country as the breadwinner. If you can't go abroad, it's grueling poverty for you, good luck caring for your sick parents or sending your kids to school. Even our nation's leaders send their children abroad for studies/job.

Yeah, the USD equivalent doesn't mean much if your nation actually has something to offer in exchange for your low wages, but that is definetly not the case everywhere.

That's why "Why would anyone ever work over 60 hours?" first seemed like a sarcastic comment to me.

Everywhere isn't europe or america guys

[–] Mountain_Mike_420@lemmy.ml 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Basic services should all be free to any human.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No. Time to privatize water, you commie!!! /s

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah, the spirit of your comment i agree with, but not the letter.

Nothing should be completely free, because nothing is free. Water needs processing, electricity needs a grid, sewage needs treatment, etc.

Basic things should be affordable for all: housing, water, electricity, internet, food etc.

But "free" creates incentives to be careless with resources. Which is counterproductive to making sure they are available for all at affordable prices.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 23 points 8 months ago

Without (real or artificial) scarcity profits would go down, and if profits ~~go down~~ stop growing the-best-possible-system© just collapses.

[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because old people aren't looking at tweets like this.

It's just our generation that has this as a standard view, and now we're reaching the point where our generation will take over.

And there's going to be some changes, let me tell you.

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's not a generational thing. It's an economic class thing.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

The future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed.- William Gibson

[–] bazmatazable@reddthat.com 18 points 8 months ago

Many great reasons raised to explain why the current system persists so its clear to me that there isn't just a single roadblock. One reason, in my mind, is the challenge of reaching consensus. Even in small groups this can be problematic and more so for an entire population. It frustrates me no end that often small disagreements in the details of an idea is enough to prevent any positive change, even though at a macro scale the idea is good and universally supported.

[–] ssm@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because capitalism demands infinite growth, forever, which means even when we're post-scarcity we need to keep working forever to continue growing beyond what is necessary.

[–] Leg@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

There ought to have been a more definitive goal to work towards...

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

at this point in time.... All hunger, all deprivation, all poverty

Is because SOMEONE wants it so. Not because circumstances make it so

[–] ToxicWaste@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago
[–] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago
[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you know how long it takes for crops to grow?

[–] threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What are you implying with that comment?

[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That long work days are still necessary, technology isnt fully there to automate everything

[–] threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

But the farmer is not eating all the crops them self. And it doesn’t have to be one farmer doing all the work.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

have you seen modern farming? these days there are tractors that can be set to follow a route and the driver just has to monitor things.

yeah it's not completely automated, but it's extremely disingenuous to imply that we're closer to traditional farming than we are to full automation.

[–] llothar@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Because inequality creates incentive. The bigger the difference between the bulk of the society and the top percentages of earners the more people are willing to risk to reach the top. That's why there are more successful startups in the US than in Scandinavia.

It's a global rat race and the US is "winning".

[–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Because every man-hour freed by automation is a man-hour of opportunity to exploit and profit elsewhere.

[–] OopsAllTwix@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Always remember the dishwasher and why it was invented. Then apply that to EVERYTHING man-made. It's alway to save time, for someone who is not you.

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago

I'm glad that dishwashers exist though. Washing dishes fucks up my skin and I couldn't pay someone to do it for me.