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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 96 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Oh man, I was going to wishlist it and wait but now I'll have to buy it on launch week.

EDIT: Sabre Interactive understands that the Emperor's light shields the faithful, making dark machine rites like Denuvo unnecessary. Such heretical rites only agitate the machine spirits, causing discordant whispers that play into the hands of the enemies of Man. The Omnissiah smiles upon this decision.

[–] Modva@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If this game releases with good quality my friends and I are day 2 customers for sure. Seems fun as hell from the videos.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I'm still pretty gutted about there being a season pass and DLC and stuff, but... I might be a week 4 customer 👀 it does look fun!

[–] Mister_Feeny@fedia.io 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

On the upshot, that season pass and the DLC stuff is all cosmetic only. All gameplay additions will be free for all.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I still strongly dislike limiting cosmetics so much, especially in a setting where they can mean so much. Darktide's $20 skins pissed me right off: role-playing is 100% part of the game and that price is absurd.

[–] Mister_Feeny@fedia.io 14 points 7 months ago

Honestly, fair criticism, as it is still a $60 game and in my old timer's brain that means everything should be unlockable through gameplay. Unfortunately, that's just not how the market seems to work anymore, so I'll just be glad their extra monetization is only limited to cosmetics and not gameplay stuff as well.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's true, you're right. Altho, I am still skeptical of it - if you have DLC ready to go before launch... Why isn't it in the base game?

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's like booking a hotel: Basic price will get you a room for the night, with all the common amenities, but if you want late checkout, you'll pay extra. Sure, they could fold that into the basic price and make it the norm, but if you know you'll leave early anyway, you'll be paying for something you don't want.

The metaphor breaks apart if you look too closely - for hotels, early checkout is a convenience since they can get the room ready sooner for the next guest, so they'll incentivise that, while the devs have already put in the work. On the other hand, the late checkout is a service of convenience while a DLC is an excitement feature, where the content is instead an incentive to pay more.

Either way, I feel like add-ons for games aren't too different from add-ons in many other industries: "This is the basic , with the price we feel we can charge for it. This here is an extra you can have for an extra charge."

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

But if you don't pay for late checkout, you can still check out. If you don't pay for extra DLC, you just don't get to use whatever is in the DLC full stop

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It is better to buy for the emperor than save for yourself

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

the emperor is nickel and diming me to build his golden throne 😭

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 14 points 7 months ago

Better wait a bit, until the inofficial beta is over, Denuvo or not.

[–] iamtrashman1312@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I would hesitate to call our foes "Intelligences," but they are most certainly Abominable, brother.

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 40 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This seems really promising. Unfortunately, I expect they'll still use Steam DRM, but everything I've heard so far is immensely promising so who know, maybe we'll get lucky and they'll skip even that.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 55 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Steam DRM is nothing like stuff people should be aware of. Ask any modder for confirmation.

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Modder here. Denuvo has absolutely no effect on modding. Steam DRM checks the integrity of the executable and also crashes on breakpoints. That said, it's easy to remove with Steamless. Memory hacks work fine.

Edit: However, Space Marine 2 is going to use EAC, which is a kernel-level anti-cheat which prevents any modding short of utilizing or creating private hacks that may involve rogue system drivers.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hard disagree on denuvo. If it's no problem for you then you must have tons of experience in re. Which puts you into some 1%-ish group. Depends on the type of mods you do of course.

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago

I do have the experience but if you attach a debugger to a non-Denuvo or a Denuvo game, then have any hacker/modder come into the room and look at the code, manipulate it or inject new code, they won't notice the difference or face any obstacles.

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Dammit, EAC may be an issue on Linux though. It's kinda hit or miss whether a given developer will take the extra steps, particularly given the conflicting sources on just how complex it actually is. According to Valve, it's a checkbox and dropping a file in your depot. Others claim it would require an Epic Online Services version of EAC, with all the baggage that carries, including potentially rewriting a whole chunk of your code.

[–] nizvicious@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I had read they have confirmed the game will be coming to steam deck shortly after, so I assume this will be working on Linux day one. I play on Linux and enjoy Warhammer so will be purchasing this game with that assumption.

Edit to include a link to the article I had read: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/08/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2-will-get-steam-deck-support/

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago

Of course. Doesn't mean its not nice to be able to avoid it though. Personally, it will have no real impact on my purchasing decision, but the less DRM, the better.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Not that I would know, but you definitely can't remove it with a single piece of software

Edit: /s

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can. Google steamless.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That's my bad for not adding a /s. I was a regular on rin

[–] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 14 points 7 months ago

They don't need Denuvo protection because the Emperor protects.

[–] anivia@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They are going to use EAC though, which is arguably an even worse inclusion than Denuvo, even if it's not a DRM

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If I had any expendable income right now, I'd preorder for that stance alone.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just in case they run out of digital copies

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[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

...why the overspecific denial? Will it be involved at a later date?

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Is "No." an over-specific denial?

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Will this game have DRM?"

"No."

"Why are you overly specific?"

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago

Yep, that's my read as well. No idea what he's talking about.

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

No, it's the "at launch" part that was added.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You mean the "at launch" part that the writer added to the article and isn't a part of the official Saber statement? Something you'd know if you read the article past the introductory paragraph?

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that "at launch". But you trust that FAQ, not like I want to do anything about that.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Have you considered taking therapy? Because you're literally making up shit to hate on a game, it's not healthy.

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm sharing my distrust in the communication to the players based on shit that happened in the past. But thanks for the personal attack disguised as concern.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Actually I found it pretty disturbing that you'd make shit up just to throw a shade, so I'd consider the concern genuine even if poorly communicated.

Seriously, normal people don't go "but what if they're lying" any time something is said.

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[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well your stance is "don't trust them" because they could lie. Then why listen to anything they say at all or engage in the convo?

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Interesting choices of questions. I don't listen to what they say, I look at what they did. Hence my opinion.

Why do I engage in this convo? Not much to do on a Monday evening. Why do you engage in this convo?

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well I was looking for an engaging convo, not chat with someone doesn't trust anyone or anything. It seems there's no shared perception of reality we can have a conversation about, it happens.

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[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

From the FAQ:

Q: Does the game use DRM software (ie. Denuvo…)?

A: No.

What "at launch" part?

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The "at launch" part in the article, right there. But you can trust the nonbinding FAQ.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We also learn in the FAQ that Easy Anti Cheat will be used on PC at launch

I'm sorry, but what part of that says Denuvo or DRM?

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[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (5 children)

The part the writer made up?

You seem to not trust anyone except the person who wrote the article and just literally made up that part to add. That's the only part you have faith in?

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[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It’s just an easy marketing dunk especially when denovo news was trending a bit this week

That sounds like something I can see them do. Engage the haters (me, when talking about denuvo) with the bright minded people that weren't tricked often enough, for more publicity.

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