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[–] [email protected] 73 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Although the title made me mutter “no shit”, the article itself is legit. It’s no fluff piece. The article provides several specific examples, and is definitely worth reading.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"We and our 848 partners store and access personal data, by clicking accept..." That's a hard pass on the cookie policy for me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

848?!

I'm not excusing this, but for their code base sake and sanity, I really hope that's a we use 5 or 6 and those 5 or 6 use a whole pile, instead of having implemented even a hundred or more services that share data.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Literally no "free speech absolutist" has ever actually been a "free speech absolutist", it is always about wanting to avoid the consequences to their own hate speech, while they hold anyone who opposes it doubly accountable for their opposition, and try, often successfully, to silence that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

And they always seem to confuse that free speech just protects them from their government, not the rest of the world, and will have consequences.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's always those who shout loudest about free speech that have the least understanding of how it works. 😂

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's the same with so-called 'anarchists'. Look at lemmy.db0.com, with a list of rules to be obeyed longer than Lemmy.world's (not that I don't agree with the rules, just that it is fundamentally hypocritical)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Anarchism: a political theory advocating the abolition of hierarchical government and the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion.

I don't follow. How is it hypocritical for an anarchist forum to have rules that the community agrees upon? I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what anarchists believe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

anarchism - the political belief that there should be little or no formal or official organization to society but that people should work freely together

I'm curious: what do the words 'formal or official organization' mean to you? Try and boil it down to say one word...

It's called understanding the implications of the statement. If an anarchist forum had the doctrine 'no matter what, treat each other with respect' it'd be fine. Anything beyond that is 'obey my opinion on how you should behave'. You know... 'Anarchy'.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If you really want to learn about anarchism instead of just spouting off an ignorant take, you should do some reading. Assuming you know everything about a whole political philosophy based off of the name and a half-understood definition that you just Googled is not the path forward.

It's nobody else's responsibility to educate you, especially when you're being belligerently hard-headed about learning what others think.

A one-word summation is for people who do not appreciate nuance, and I have no desire to engage with such a request.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is no nuance here. 'Follow these rules or else' is anathema to Anarchism and trying to ad hominem to deflect from the fact you haven't put up any shred of evidence to the contrary is weak tea.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Well, since you know everything about anarchism that you ever will, I don't see this discussion going anywhere.

Have a good one!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Same energy

ETA: It's really funny that you're making this argument in a thread you about how people don't understand how the first amendment has limits, much like the principles of many types of anarchism have limits.

10/10, no notes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

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See I can do it too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I guess I walked right into that one?

Though telling me you don't understand isn't the brag you apparently think it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Live in denial. Be my guest.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You're inviting me to live in denial with you as your guest?

That's very sweet, but I prefer reality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh, hey look. You managed to edit that post and it actually resulted in something semantically intelligible, if still in denial. Congrats, and your welcome for teaching you howum to words good.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Oh, I see.

You think correcting yourself when you make a mistake is stupid.

That makes a whole lot of sense, actually.

ETA: TTYL! I can make you look foolish all day, baby! You give me such good material LMAO!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You think correcting yourself when you make a mistake is stupid.

No, I think correcting yourself when you make a mistake and failing miserably is stupid. And you 'thinking' you're making me look foolish is just icing on the cake.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let's sum up:

You can't understand a simple sentence explaining that you accept that there are common-sense limitations on the principles of liberal democracy (like freedom of speech), but you don't accept that there are also common-sense limitations on the principles of anarchy (like freedom of association).

Then you tell me that I'm in denial about... something? It isn't clear, really.

Then you tell me that I'm stupid for editing a spelling mistake.

What a hero to dig in your heels and die on the dumbest possible straw-man hill. I have so much to learn from you. I've changed my mind, thank you for correcting me with your angsty-teenager understanding of anarchism. o7

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Incorrect summation. You uttered a nonsensical statement full of condescension, edited the post for some reason, but left it nonsense. Then, despite being told twice now haven't figured it out and still think you're the one making ME look the fool.

Way to represent anarchism. Bunch of ignorant self-centred halfwits not truly comprehending the meaning and inevitable futility of the actual belief system, but glomming onto it because it justifies THEM not having to follow rules.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

...You realize it's all there, right?

ETA: for everyone to see?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm honestly starting to think you cannot see it due to some LD so I'll just leave it for everyone to see until you figureidout. Until then I'll just look like I'm being mean to someone that can't help it, so (and this is how you aktually do it FTR) have a nice day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Sure buddy.

I'm glad you found a way to disengage without having to think about it. Must be a pretty fragile ego you have there if you go to such hilarious lengths to protect it.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

“My freedom to say what I want, and the ability to filter what others say, is absolute.”

— E. Musk

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

And all he had to do to do that was buy Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He is as long as it’s his own speech, and it doesn’t include anything he said in the past that he might not wish to be disseminated in the present, among a host of other conditions.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

That's the funny (or sad) thing with almost all of those free speech enthusiasts. They don't want free speech, but exclusively freedom for their speech.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

He is a nepo baby apartheid cuck though…

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Duh. Did this really need to be a whole article?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

He is if you only consider his speech. Typical sociopathic, spoiled, rich kid syndrome

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

He banned the term cis from reddit.

No. He’s not. Also fuck him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's wild that articles like this are made... If you even have an small touch stone of common sense it's pretty obvious billionaires rarely do things for people unless it out proportionally helps themselves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Well now you got something black on white that you can cite and point to for collected evidence. That's... something?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

And that’s a block Jeff. Im not wasting another second on soap opera.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Careful, he gets real moody when you talk mean.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's kinda why most people laughingly put it in scare quotes - and not just when talking about Elmo.

The real question is why people insist on continuing to use Xitter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I wonder if "Elon Musk is absolutely a 'hate speech assholutist'" would fit him better, meaning that inviting him here to comment may end up with him in violation of 'Rule 6' and likely end up being banned with no warning given.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Did they just figure that out? Not like years ago?