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I have degoogled but I find myself missing Google Wallet/Pay despite it being the worst spyware there is. I would like to have both my bus pass and card available on my phone in case I ever get stranded with out either. I've found this app but when trying to emulate a MiFare Classic, it emulated a MiFare Plus and when attempting to emulate a Visa or MasterCard, it just errors out and says to please insert the card.

I presume I need some sort of sniffer hardware like a Proxmark3 to get as much data off the cards as possible, though I'm not really sure how to get the data from there to an emulator on my phone with the intention of out and about.

Please only reply with genuine answers. Any shit about ToS or poor security etc. will be ignored.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

You're not gonna have much luck. If you're able to clone these kind of cards, its an honest security vulnerability and should be reported.

As an alternative, I've seen people suggest using a smartwatch, like the Garmin ones, that have a "wallet".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You aren't going to be able to get any crypto keys out of an EMV card. They are actually secure. GPay works by registering a separate virtual card through an API.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Its in progress but currently there are none that Im aware of. This obviously requires a high level of security and trust from the banks and CCs. And they arent going to give the time of day to anyone whos not a trillion dollar company.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

How is Google wallet the worst spyware? I'm not aware of anything particularly nefarious it's doing

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It is making good money

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

By paying with Google wallet, Google knows exactly what you bought, at which store, and even at what time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

No they don't. They know how much you spent, when and where. They have no idea what you bought, except it's something that is traded at wherever location.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Google's Gemini AI says they know the details of the transactions. The link Google provided as a source was this which says they collect your data:

https://support.google.com/googlepay/answer/10223752?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid#zippy=%2Cinfo-that-google-wallet-may-collect

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

They still don't get a list of items you bought. Is running a request for payment, it's not billing a list of stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Okay but how is it spyware

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The dictionary definition:

"software that enables a user to obtain covert information about another's computer activities by transmitting data covertly from their hard drive."

Just because a program tells you it's collecting your data in the fine print doesn't mean it's not spyware.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Is it covert if you know it's happening and have agreed to it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I got tired of gpay breaking every week or so on crdroid. I just got a card that works with my Garmin watch and pay with that now. No more fighting the nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

you need to get a different device. As others suggested a watch is your best bet but dont expect those options to respect your privacy any more or less than google.