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[–] [email protected] 124 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 63 points 6 months ago

In their (in)finite mercy.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tux is my copilot, and never tries to be a back-seat driver.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

Tux, take the wheel!

[–] [email protected] 94 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Great, more vendor specific keys that absolutely nobody needs.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I ended up un mapping my Netflix button on my shield TV remote because it was super annoying for accidental presses.

Do the manufacturers even get a cut for promoting these services, or is this just what people want?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How did you do that please?

And heh, no cut, dummy. They get extorted. Netflix wouldn't agree to allow the hi-res streaming to their devices otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Didn't think about that, that makes so much sense.

I use Buttons Remapper and set the Netflix button to do nothing and override system. You don't need to pay for this but there is other stuff locked behind a pay wall.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I kinda see your point, but a huge number of people have a subscription to at least one streaming service, so those buttons are a useful feature for a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Unlikely all 4 though. Give people 1-2 they can map services two, instead of multiple wasted (branded) buttons.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Most consumers want their device to work right out of the box, mapping buttons isn't something most of the population wants to deal with.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Don't give them excuses, mate.

Map them during initial setup.

Please choose a service you would like to use and we will help you log in.

You have x buttons that are available to use as a shortcut to the service. Please press the button you would like to use, or press enter to skip this step.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

But then you have to remember which one is which. The ones in your example are already labelled.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You work in their marketing department, don't you?

The scenario I mentioned would have the buttons simply labeled with a number/letter. 95% of the time I don't even look on the remote to use a button. Also, if you hit the wrong button, no big deal, you just the other/s.

Like I mentioned, stop giving them excuses.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nobody will remember that. Too complicated for Grandma.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You do realize that we already know the only reason you have them on your remotes is to charge the streaming services a licensing fee for the advertisement. You couldn't care less about grandma.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can we stop with accusing people with working for corporations and treating them as representative of that corporation just for the purpose of appealing to emotion and making the other person sound worse? It doesn't even make much sense. Lemmy is too small for corporations to spend money to astroturf.

The only thing you manage to do is make Lemmy more toxic and unappealing to spend time on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

We also have a problem with people massively overestimating the amount of hassle "normal" people are willing to go through to use technology.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The tinfoil hat is cutting off the blood flow to your brain.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Whatever you say.

I mean I do need to keep my antennae from buzzing all the time. But, whatever you say.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Label the remappable button STREAMING SERVICE or something, I don't know.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

There's a lot of people in this thread who've never had to be tech support for elderly relatives.

Grandma doesn't know what a streaming is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is literally what certain manufacturers do. Here's a side by side of the receiver remote for my setup and the one for the TV (which has never even been connected to the internet). One has these dedicated buttons. The other just has ones labeled for streaming or similar.>!!<

I'll add that the location of the buttons makes a significant difference. If they're easy to hit by accident you're more likely to have grandma launch a service she didn't mean to and not know how to back out of it. This causes more problems than it solves.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A huge number of people like pussy too, but that doesn't mean I want a button for it

(I'm gay af)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

As much as I don't like these buttons, working in tech support, I can tell you far too many people can't figure out anything more complex than "push the giant button that says the thing you want on it", and that is even difficult to get some people to understand.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you guys have remote with dedicated key for specific channel? Awful!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah some TV's these days come with streaming built in and have this kind of remote. Plus if you buy a set top streaming box like a Roku, they come with this kind of remote also. It's stupid, but a real world thing.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

The screenshot for the article depicts the copilot key on the “context menu” key

[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 months ago

How gracious of them.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 months ago

Finally, the Any key!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago

How nice of them....

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why Microsoft is so obsessed with the word "copilot"? There's like 4 different things with the same name.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Missed opportunity to re-brand clippy

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Good. Clippy doesn't deserve to get treated like that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft will definitely have the power to bulldoze all other things named copilot, like Facebook did to meta. I'm still not over AI being a lame word now. I miss the time when it felt sci-fi and not like a corporate buzzword.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

William Gibson made the metaverse, fuck FB for stealing that cool name for a 3D world and then botchering it so hard it will never ever even be a thing lol. I mean how hard can it be with those kind of budgets they have. Smh.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I can't believe this came before Samsung letting you reprogram your Bixby key.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Shit, even Apple lets you reprogram the Action Button, insofar as you can program anything on iOS (which isn’t nothing, Shortcuts scripting can be pretty detailed).

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

my favorite feature of copilot is that on top of being extremely stupid, it's very easily offended. literally the only thing they made sure it would consistently get right is being fucking touchy.

I used copilot like four times to test what it can do. it is so fucking bad. every "conversation" inevitably ends with me saying "you're useless" and copilot getting offended and immediately ending the conversation with a passive aggressive message basically implying "I'm done with this. you can try again if you're gonna be nicer next time"

lol fucking dumb useless piece of code, can't even ask it the simplest questions without it spitting some absolute nonsense, but also can't take shit because it's too precious and self respecting. fuck you, Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm surprised they didn't try to sell it to an ad company.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

You're hired!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

All I care to know is what code it sends to the machine so I can submit a merge to Plasma to default that key to opening krunner.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Now they just need to allow me to actually uninstall it...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (4 children)

What does the Key on its own do, what character does it send? Is it something standard or is it something custom?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

standard, surprisingly enough, it's essentially just a shortcut to the key combination ctrl+shift+f23. guess microsoft figured they couldn't leave all the extra F keys unattended

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Probably Ctrl + shift + win + alt + C, or something like that. The same modifiers + first letter of the program work for other services like word and linkedin

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

It's something like win-ctrl-f23

(Despite the physical buttons having been missing for a long time on regular keyboards, there are still scancodes for f13-f24)

For what it's worth too, the Windows "Powertoys" utilities have always been able to remap it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

why even make it in the first place? just use a keyboard shortcut or something.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

So you know the built-in keyboard shortcut on Windows that opens LinkedIn? (IIRC it's Ctrl+Alt+Win+Shift+L)

That's because Microsoft sold keyboards for a while with "Office keys," so you could hit Office+W for Word, Office+X for Excel, etc. All that key would do is send all those modifiers. There are plenty of unused modifier key codes they could use instead, but they did this.

I'm guessing this key works the same.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I didn't even know that was a thing...

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