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US to probe Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving' system after pedestrian killed in low visibility conditions (apnews.com)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The U.S. government’s road safety agency is again investigating Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” system, this time after getting reports of crashes in low-visibility conditions, including one that killed a pedestrian.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says in documents that it opened the probe on Thursday with the company reporting four crashes after Teslas entered areas of low visibility, including sun glare, fog and airborne dust.

In addition to the pedestrian’s death, another crash involved an injury, the agency said.

Investigators will look into the ability of “Full Self-Driving” to “detect and respond appropriately to reduced roadway visibility conditions, and if so, the contributing circumstances for these crashes.”

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

Fuck Elon musk.

But self-driving is one of the most needed technologies to aim for in the near future. And it's a shame that as American space industry it has , apparently, let be in the hands of a lunatic.

The potential to reduce road mortality. And to give back to humans thousands of hours back of their time (you can do other things while not driving).

I don't really care about the philosophical question on who is to blame if a self driving car run over one person if road mortality got statistically reduced by a big value thanks to the technology.

The anti technology I see on some supposedly progressive people nowadays really scares me. Bad omen. It's like having a choice between rich conservatives and poor conservatives, but only conservatives nonetheless.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Be easier to automate various types of rail.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

As stated in other comment of mine. Public transport/walkikg is good for high density cities.

Not everyone would be happy living in such environment. I fact I think most people won't. Low density environment have a need for cars. And I think if cars are needed, they'd better be electric and self driving.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Then it's a difference of opinion, I think they would be happier with better public transport.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Does anyone else find this enraging ?

It’s a decade too late.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

I purchased FSD when it was 8k. What a crock of shit. When I sold the car, that was this only gave the car value after 110k miles and it was only $1500 at most.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

In five years guys!!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is why you can’t have an AI make decisions on activities that could kill someone. AI models can’t say “I don’t know”, every input is forced to be classified as something they’ve seen before, effectively hallucinating when the input is unknown.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I wonder if they will now find the Emperor has no clothes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

If it took them this long to look at Full Self Driving, I don't have a lot of hope. But I'd like to be pleasantly surprised.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Maybe have a safety feature that refuses to engage self drive if it's too foggy/rainy/snowy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Inb4 someone on TikTok shows how to bypass that sensor by jamming an orange in it -__-

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

They need to just ban this technolgy from cars and semis entirely.

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