Political Memes

Sure, more Palestinians will die

Sure, Ukrainians will die

Sure, US minorities will die

Sure, the entire world will suffer from a fascist demagogue at the head of the most powerful country in the world

But have you considered that, for a few brief moments of time, ~~we created a lot of value for the shareholders~~ we got to feel smug over the SHITLIBS who wanted to prevent fascism?

They are either Russian trolls or children who have a Disney level perspective on politics, I think. They don't want to recognize that they have very limited options or the harsh realities surrounding them.

I got into this argument the other day. People’s arrogance and lack of common sense was disappointing.

It's almost like the current and immediate conflict between Israel and Palestinians isn't the singular thing that the world should have serious concern about, and that realistic solutions to longstanding international diplomacy issues are - wait for it - hard.

Yeah, because that worked out so well when in 2016 when Trump got elected, the GOP got multiple Supreme Court picks, multiple federal judges were given life terms, and Roe vs Wade got struck down. Let's see how that plays out when Ukraine falls, war breaks out in Europe, America becomes a theocratic dictatorship, and what little progress we may have seen with the environment completely falls apart and the world goes full tilt towards becoming an uninhabitable hellscape. Whatever the protest was about will be utterly meaningless.

If you want to protest, you protest AFTER you get sympathetic ears into office, not after you get the opposition elected. Trump gets in, then suddenly he'll give you plenty to protest about, vs protesting when Harris is in office and she actually has a willingness to listen to protests and meet their demands.

People refusing to vote for Harris becuase of a foreign conflict they understand nothing about is peak stupidty.

It really depends on which state you live in whether or not you have the luxury of a protest vote. If you live in NY state that has a 20% lead for Harris, sure, some people can vote Jill Stein or something. But if you live in a state that actually might be close or not an obvious blowout, you can't vote that way. You actually have to be tactical with your vote, not idealistic or symbolic.

Let me take a stab at this. As a non American non voter who is interested in the outcome of the election.

There are 3 parties to this discussion: the Harris campaign (Democrats in general), the Gaza issue voter, and the lesser evil voters.

The Gaza issue voters clearly believe a genocide is occuring, sometimes affecting them personally, and funded by their tax dollars. They would like some concessions from the Dems (the only likely party to take any action) and their only bargaining chip is their vote. It is clear to me that, if a large number of Americans felt strongly and this way, action would happen.

The Harris campaign has been non responsive on this issue, trying to tread the thin line, where they not only look powerless politically, but also unwilling to take a moral stand for what is right.

The lesser evil voters are absolutely correct that she is still better than Trump, and in more ways than just Middle east.

What I think all 3 parties need to do:

The lesser evil camp, instead of mocking the hold outs, needs to pressure the Harris campaign to make a change. Maybe even join them! (See the last point)

The Harris campaign, needs to think long and hard about what they stand for, and the implications of the Republican-lite gamble paying off. There needs to be some fear of losing voters who they cannot take for granted as they shift to the right.

Finally the Gaza voters. Its fine to play the game of chicken, keep screaming as loud as you can demanding change, but ultimately (secretly) get to the ballot and vote D.

Everyone who doesn't support a corporatist duopoly is lazy, dumb, and/or working for the geopolitical rival to my dominant hegemonic country!

One can only wonder why you have not convinced more people with your message and Harris is now losing.

Pretty sure people are gonna die regardless of which genocidal wacko is elected.

A large portion of the people you're referring to are Arab Americans. In fact, Trump is now leading with them. I also think Trump would be worse for Palestinians than Harris, but I doubt the best way to convince Arab Americans of that is with condescending memes about how they don't care about the Middle East.

Dem centrists are too lazy to try to influence their politicians to do the right thing. And they pretend the politician is powerless to change their stand. They can change their stand. You can apply pressure during an election. if you'd just try. But you all pretend you are powerless, and then call everyone trying to pressure harris shitty names.

Usually they live in blue states that will partially insulate them from the consequences. Or they’re young and don’t understand knock on effects yet.