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[–] [email protected] 162 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Iran is correct.

Israel is destabilizing the region further with this shit.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We hear about Israel’s right to protect itself so often we almost forget that everyone has it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Everyone, except Palestine and Lebanon

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can we just let the leaders duke it out? 1 on 1 knife fights. Leave the people out of this shit

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If only.

[T]he ministers and generals of the two countries, dressed in bathing-drawers and armed with clubs, can have it out among themselves. Whoever survives, his country wins. That would be much simpler and more just than this arrangement, where the wrong people do the fighting.

  • All Quiet on the Western Front, written by a WW1 veteran
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[–] radiohead37 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I don’t think Iran had to attack Israel in first place. Hezbollah sought this when they started attacking Israel after Oct 7th.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 5 months ago

Ignoring all the assassinations and strikes by Israel, including the unprovoked bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Iran is supporting it's allies like the West does

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (169 children)

On the surface - perhaps. But Iran's regime has to keep its image of power for its domestic peace. Israel's gov knows this and they do steps they know would elicit response from Iran in the hopes Iran would actually hit hard and the US would be dragged in official capacity. That would be dramatically destabilizing for the region. I reckon the US threatened Israel with real steps in order to get them to not hit targets that would have led to such escalation.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Eye for an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye...

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

What were soldiers doing in hospitals and schools? It's almost like they wanted to get themselves blown up!

Oh, my bad. Wrong place. I got it confused with this one:

“A Major Massacre” in Jabaliya; Israeli Forces Raid Kamal Adwan Hospital in Northern Gaza, Killing Patients

Or maybe it was this one:

Israel strike on Gaza school-turned-shelter kills 17, hospital says

Damn, maybe it was this one:

Israeli attack closes last functioning hospital in north Gaza

Found it! I was thinking of this one:

Israeli shelling of Gaza school kills at least 22

Well, it's at least one of those.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

What Iranian hospitals or schools did Israel hit?

Based on intelligence, IAF aircraft struck missile manufacturing facilities used to produce the missiles that Iran fired at the State of Israel over the last year. These missiles posed a direct and immediate threat to the citizens of the State of Israel. Simultaneously, the IDF struck surface-to-air missile arrays and additional Iranian aerial capabilities, that were intended to restrict Israel’s aerial freedom of operation in Iran. Source

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Exactly. I guess the missile accuracy varies depending on the direction launched.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

It's unlikely they'll attack before the election, if they do. They know every escalation is another vote for Trump, and even Iran doesnt want Trump in power. My guess is they're going to see who wins and what comes out of it before making any decisions.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (4 children)

This analysis ignores the internal motivations for foreign policy.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

To repeat immortal words of the sage ~~Pierce~~ Piers Morgan, "what should the Iranian government do?".

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They could try not constantly funding and training groups commiting terrorist acts.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (9 children)

Absolutely. And the Israelis should dismantle the apartheid, end the occupation, get the fuck on their side of their 1967 border, and recognize the sovereign Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza. Plus, they should hand over their war criminals to the ICC and start a Truth and Reconciliation process. Throw in paying reparations, because why the fuck not.

Somehow I don't think though that ~~Pierce~~ Piers Morgan would accept that as a valid answer when he was asking "what should the Israeli government do". Do you? Because if you do, I will also accept your answer about the terrorist groups. 100%.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

I'm up voting both of you and I'm sad about it

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

I lost my shit when he interviewed Lowkey for the second time, and Lowkey asked him if he condemned Rupert Murdoch because he publicly funds illegal Israeli settlers, providing evidence to support his claim. All the life drained from his face, and he immediately ended the interview.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

No lies detected.

Godspeed.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I wonder how long these two will keep attacking each other in the name of their right to defend themselves. They should attack at the same time so both can say it was retaliation for the another's simultaneous attack, it's a perfect plan, both can say they got the last word and stop. Waiting for my Nobel peace prize.

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