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Summary

In Wayne County, Arab American precincts rejected Kamala Harris, with Biden receiving 82% of the vote in 2020 and Harris only 23% in 2024.

Trump’s outreach to Arab American and Muslim communities, including visits to Dearborn and Hamtramck, contributed to his increased support.

Harris’s performance in Dearborn, where she received only 13% of the vote in the south end, reflects the backlash against Biden’s handling of foreign policy in the Middle East.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 7 months ago (5 children)

they only care about themselves, and their misguided belief that they are 'doing the right thing' and 'paying back' biden.

if they cared at all about gaza, about the west bank, about palestine and its people, they would have come out in force, and in support of democrats from coast to coast. anything to prevent another trump presidency.

trump was never on their side and will let israel do whatever they want.

just like he'll let russia do whatever they want and ukraine will cease to exist. protest votes, like those in michigan, helped doom ukraine, too.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Harris could've fixed that by promising not to blow up Palestine. This is purely on her and Biden for being unelectable, not on people refusing to vote for someone who will wipe them out

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (7 children)

not on people refusing to vote for someone who will wipe them out

Man I totally forgot Trump is actually a peace loving, human-rights respecting person and totally won't give Israel a blank check. Can't wait for the news article about how Trump's totally gonna get Israel to stop!

Good thing we didn't vote in BlUe MagA right guys?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (12 children)

I'm afraid these guys are incapable of complex morale situations, not understanding how the lines are blurred in most situations. They just want everything to be good or bad, nothing in between.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Nah, I just don't like Palestinians being ethnically cleansed by weapons I paid for. Wish liberals could say the same, but yall believe genocide is a necessary sacrifice to gain power

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

Palestinians being ethnically cleansed by weapons I paid for.

Well good news! Now your taxes will pay for the ethnical cleansing of Palestinians AND Americans with Trump! Congratulations!!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

Nah, I just don’t like Palestinians being ethnically cleansed by weapons I paid for.

Then explain in detail how allowing Trump to be President achieves this goal. Go on. Do it.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

Do you see it yet?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So allow the candidate to supercharge the extermination to win? That's one helluva strategy. Certainly one way to try and shift the blame to one side when there's plenty to go around for both dems and the uncommitted

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yet you only ever complain about how "the uncommitted" are the problem, and never dems 🤔

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Having trouble reading my comment, buddy? I literally said "uncommitted and dems". Both are trying to blame the other, when in reality both have played a hand. No one's hands are clean in this

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Harris refused to take a stand against Israel so why should they vote for her?

Why are they selfish? Because they didn't vote how YOU wanted? Who's being selfish here?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Oh yea, because Trump's definitely gonna take a stand against Israel and TOTALLY won't give them a blank check and encourage genocide. Nope.

At least we didn't give that blUe MagA the Trifecta! We did it Lemmy!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They didn't vote for trump. They didn't vote. Both sides promised to continue the genocide. That's pretty fair.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

"A non-vote is a vote for Trump"

Trump did not gain a whole lot of raw votes compared to 2020. Last I saw he had figures of a net gain of ~500k

Harris fell 4 million short. If you didn't vote because of some stupid protest, you voted for Trump. Netanyahu publicly wanted Trump to win.

AFAIC, every protest-voter, every third-party voter, every "BlUe MAgA" screecher is a MAGAt who directly contributed to this shit show we're about to have.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Let's see how many more elections y'all gotta lose before you learn. Or maybe y'all lost the big one because you just couldn't stop yourselfs from begging for leftist votes you couldnt compromise with.

Except it's not even you. Your just a random dude body blocking for a billion dollar campaign. Human being to human being here, why can't you blame the DNC? Genuinely? They ran the election, they got the polls, they knew what was popular and what they would win votes with but we're unwilling to do it and gambled on a different strategy. Is that not their fault?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

why can't you blame the DNC?

Oh I do, but they are not 100% here, in all likelihood MAGA would have fallen apart had he lost and then we could have had our hand ringing and protest votes and all that for 4 years. Giving the Rs the senate and house would have been preferable to a Trump presidency if you wanted to protest something.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Oh cause that is really going to help things. That's such a stupid stance to take. It's a complete abdication of any agency or power they have as voters. In this election a non-vote was a vote for Trump cause most likely non-voters were the pearl clutching centrist democrats who were literally one-issue voters. One-issue voters are pathetic and stupid.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

And yet Trump was the man Netanyahu wanted. Why in the world wouldn't that be their sign. Oh, I guess to be fair it doesn't rhyme, so it was probably hard for you guys to understand.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This is the thing I can stand least about liberals. They're the smartest, most moral people in the world and anyone who doesn't vote their way for any reason is stupid and bad

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Voting 3rd party or sitting out during the election basically cedes the election to one of two parties. We should at least choose the party that has a better chance to be swayed against genocide than the one who openly advocates for the genociders to 'finish the job'"

"L1b3RaL!!1!a"

I'm not saying liberals are the smartest and most moral people, they definitely aren't. But dismissing reality of the American political system and the almost certain likelihood of the US presidential election to vote for neither of the two main parties and expecting something good to come out of it is pretty telling to one's critical thinking skills.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I expect nothing good to come from voting 🤷

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Great, so you're part of the problem just like the democrats are 👍

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In support of, (checks notes) ... The woman who never meaningfully distanced herself from Biden's policy of funding the Genocide of their families.

Yeah. Super shocked. Super.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Well at least they can complain altogether when Trump reports them all.

Stupid fucking people.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

Mask drops and the liberal becomes racist when the race in question doesn't vote for their party. Classic. It's so classic that I can show you a song from 1966 singing it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

People who don't agree with you aren't stupid. They just have a different life they're living.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Both can be true. Lot of ways to live. Lot of stupid people.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I'm not going to laugh if trump starts deporting Muslims - including those here legally... but I probably won't feel too bad about it either.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (6 children)

L*berals will see literal genocide and say "this is ok bc they deserve it for not voting blue no matter who"

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago
  • German liberal 1936
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[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Lol. Hope they all got their bags packed.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Imagine saying this about German Jewish folk in the Holocaust. You just gave up all pretense of advocating the moment they didn't support your party.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago (9 children)

They voted against their own interests which is what's really shocking.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (10 children)

I'll be watching how this bold strategy plays out in Gaza.

Oh, this is a shocking turn of events.

To clarify, this is not a new quote. However, this is the new Ambassador to Israel, I'm given to understand.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Shit, theyre gonna start bombing gaza and murdering women and children when Trumps inaugurated

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Democrats told them to shut up about it. So they did...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

Not only that, but Kamala's campaign decided to send Bill Clinton to lecture them on the Gaza war, just before the election.

The Harris campaign also sent Hillary Clinton to Florida. Went over like a lead balloon.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know many things but the voters are obviously to blame. We drew 100 different trolley problems and told them democracy and women's rights were on the line. We even had Bill Clinton logically explain that Palestinians were human shields. We even had better policy even though most voters didn't know it. I can only conclude voters are selfish and that's why they vote against their own interests.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

In Wayne County, Arab American precincts rejected Kamala Harris

Turns out war crimes dont win votes.

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