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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago (39 children)

Literally the only thing I can agree with sunak on. Good.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's just a distraction from the UK's anemic growth. Obviously he has done nothing that worked for the economy, and the conservatives have no ideas. The UK GDP has basically not grown since 2007.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?locations=GB&start=2007

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not everything is a distraction tactic

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

This is. Conservatives were elected to help the economy in 2010 and have managed less than 2% growth since then. I have no idea why they weren't thrown out on their asses after Brexit, but maybe the British public love pain and misery?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Do you think someone from Central Office went out and sneakily set dogs on people to savage them and set the news agenda? Or is it just possible these the spate of attacks and subsequent uproar, with pressure that Something Must Be Done occurred without political machinations?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Curious to know what they intend to do with the Bully XLs currently owned legally.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same as when they last banned a breed. They must all be registered, muzzled, and neutered. If not, fines/seizure and possible imprisonment of the owner.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (5 children)

A perfectly reasonable way to sunset the breed.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Under dangerous dogs?

I assume you mean due to their health issues. Cant disagree. But I think it would be a Heck of a lot more complex to define breeds that suffer.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Finally. Took them long enough.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Seems like we need to implement dog licences instead. It takes skill to own a well trained dog. Then just make sure people who are miscreants are banned from owning them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (6 children)

You know that dog licenses were just a tax on dog owners. There was no ‘fit and proper person’ test or requirement for training.

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[–] Fedegenerate 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Of course, the people who abuse their dogs to the point of become dangerous will just move on the next breed.

Playing whack-a-mole isn't ever effective policy. Before this breed it was pitbulls, after this breed it'll just be something else.

Dog attacks won't stop unless we ban all dogs, stop people who abuse animals to the point of of being dangerous from owning dogs, or stop people from wanting to abuse animals to the point of being dangerous.

That said, this isn't a harmful policy, just an ineffective one. If you want to own a dog, for good or ill, there are plenty of other breeds out there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (6 children)

The difference is that other breeds aren't quite as dangerous, and so won't kill or maim as many people.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Why not just keep banning them?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Read this as some new version of American bulldogs. Glad to know it's not the same breed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I hadn't heard the term either until recently, and had to look it up. An American bully is a cross between pit bulls and bulldogs. A bully XL is the largest variant.

The breed is not an officially-recognized one, so definitions are a bit fuzzy.

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