How come Syria has to protect women, but US federal and state governments don't?
this post was submitted on 11 Dec 2024
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Why does Syria need to renounce terrorism, but the US federal and state governments don’t?
What do you mean?
Look at the anti female healthcare laws that are being enacted across the US.
Start with Florida and Texas as some of the more glaring examples.
Could you be specific about which laws? I'm not saying you're wrong I just want to know specifically what you are saying the government is doing that removes protections from women
The intent of those laws isn't to hurt women or reduce their protections. Those laws are intended to protect what the law makers view as children from being murdered by the women. They are just implemented in a really poor way resulting in those horrible scenarios.
It's obvious you were waiting for someone to finally say abortion so you could respond with that.
If women are dying because of laws denying them medical care that could have easily saved their lives, that is the definition of not protecting women.
I was waiting for someone to actually state their position. It is a bit weird how no one would actually say what their opinion was and instead relied on people making assumptions about their position. It's rather terrible for communication imo.
You are right, women are being hurt by those laws, those are not anti womens healthcare laws though. As I said those laws are about the fetus. Women being hurt and killed is an unintended externality. People talk like there is a war on women here comparable to what the Taliban is doing when the US is one of the best places in the world to be a woman. That's not to say the US isn't backtracking but perspective is important.
It's hard to perceive your "what do you mean?" as genuine, especially considering it wasn't a vague reference. I think you could have asked, "Do you only mean abortion or is there something else?" and communicated your points in a less passive-aggressive "trap" framework.
Additionally, the original point only stated US governments are not protecting women, which is true regardless of your stance on abortion, regardless of the intended target of the law and regardless if it was intentionally targeting, "a war on", women.
I'm unsure why people are expected to correctly interpret what they meant, yet I am required to spell out what I said. That seems like a double standard. Personally I felt what I wrote was clear enough as it was. I wanted to know what they meant by what they said, so I asked them what they meant.
Here's the first couple of articles I found in a quick search:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/search/research-news/16798/
http://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/30/texas-woman-death-abortion-ban-miscarriage
The intent of those laws isn't to hurt women or reduce their protections. Those laws are intended to protect what the law makers view as children from being murdered by the women. They are just implemented in a really poor way resulting in those horrible scenarios.
Given gow horribly thwy are implemented, it's hard to accept it isn't intentionally being cruel.
Definitely possible but I'm a fan of Hanlon's Razor unless evidence shows otherwise.
Here's some evidence for you: a 10 year old rape victim in Ohio was forced to travel to Indiana for an abortion, since Ohio had a blanket ban on all abortion at the time. The doctor that performed the abortion in Indiana was investigated and fined, and still faces harassment to this day. For performing an abortion for a 10 year old rape victim.
Firstly, that's not evidence. You need to provide an article or something along those lines to provide evidence. That being said, I also don't doubt what you say. However you are claiming they did it with the specific intent of hurting that 10 year old and people like her. What evidence do you have of that? All you have shown is that in the act of protecting the fetus, the would-be mother and doctor got hurt. That's not the same thing.
Think about it
Unfortunately I can't read people's minds to figure out what their argument is.
The irony in this is almost too much. How can we say this while also supplying the arms to Israel so they can continue to kill women and children while also terrorizing places they have no business being. It's all a fuckin joke.
You’re 100% correct. I mean… Mideast policy hypocrisy like this has been the norm all the decades I’ve been alive.
I give it two months before Trump orders the CIA to assassinate al-Bashir, probably at request of Israel.
I really, really hope to be wrong, but unfortunately Syria is very weak right now and Israel has already been striking the leftover military institutions to keep them weak. I just can't imagine foreign capitalists being able to stop themselves from further exploitation.
Has anyone told Biden what Israel has been doing in Gaza?
Those aren't crazy demands
Yeah, but they're Biden's...
And he's also defending Israel seizing Syrian land.
That's not even getting into who know what trump will do in a month
Is Saudi Arabia an example of protecting women and promote non extreme version of Islam?
It is from a genocidal terrorist group (USA).
It is for religious extremists
No one said they were.
They will support anything as long as it favors Israel.
He's also defending the buffer zone's buffer zone. I thought they'd rather focus on democracy so the rest can be handled by the people,
USA is going to protect people who renounce USA? Great.
Meanwhile, in the lineup for next year's white house occupancy, ....
Ah yes, America, so concerned about rights and freedom.