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Sure, there are always outliers and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but that's just the overall impression I have.

(I wasn't sure if [email protected] or this community would fit better for this kind of question, but I assume it fits here.)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's definitely a weakness. There is an entire spectrum of personal beliefs, but wherever you are, if yours don't align with the mods you get censored. Reality is every new users first week is finding out where they 'belong' and this both discourages new users, and creates detrimental echo chambers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

If your "personal beliefs" entail persecuting others for their ethnic origin, sexual orientation or gender identity, you can fuck right off. Otherwise you won't have any trouble fitting in here.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's a strength because we finally get to interact amongst the left without having to explain how society works to every ignorant conservatwat who thinks they can conservasplain some bullshit. It's what makes it great.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

I think it's both. I can avoid having to engage with cruel or shitty perspectives as often, but I also don't love spending so much social time in an echo chamber, it's not great for you.

I think echo chambers are really bad for a culture and for people immersed in them, but like not seeing Nazi shit is certainly nice

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The political divesity is less of an issue than the political ferver. Most people don't want to talk aboit politics. They want to avoid political discussions, and get upset when people do things as basic as pointing out that politics exists in their bubble.

The fediverse turns them off because it's loaded with politically aware and stubbornly vocal people, not because there aren't enough people playing apologetics for the ruling class

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

No echo-chamber is stronger for it. It's a weakness.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

It's certainly a weakness, especially since the Lemmy echo chamber is ever more extremist than the echo chambers you'd find on a place like Reddit or Truth Social. But I don't think it makes it uniquely bad. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

On Lemmy.world it's a weakness. Your instance may vary

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy is always going to lean more radical than other platforms. Not only is the lead dev a Communist, but to pick Lemmy over Reddit is an ideological choice to begin with. There is an ideological barrier to entry, and this won't change until Reddit goes under.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I guess it could be counted as a weakness as far as attracting new users go, but I think it's a strength overall.

It would be sort of nice if there was a stronger right-wing presence here, but at this point in our history, the right is overtly toxic. They've completely lost touch with honesty, empathy, integrity and simple human decency. Their entire identity at this point is built on hatred, bigotry and callous disregard for anyone other than themselves. They poison everything they touch, so the fact that they can't gain a foothold here is very much to our benefit.

If we survive this era of Trump/Putin/Netanyahu/Polievre/Le Pen/Modi/Meloni/Hanson/etc., then hopefully the right will reconnect with reality, integrity and simple decency enough that they can take part in a community without turning it into a cesspool of hatred and lies, but unless and until that happens, this place is absolutely better off without them.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I view the focus on Lemmy's political opinions as a weakness for attracting new users.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

There is a bunch of angry brigading here for any of a multitude of reasons, and that shear wall of vitriol thrown at people doesn't help lemmy grow.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (9 children)

Huge strength.

The alternative is Reddit or 4Chan if you want centrist or right wing takes. I know which of the 3 platforms I want.

Seeing this place run by individuals with a commitment to creating a better social environment is also a huge plus. You wouldn’t get that under a non-leftist platform.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe lemmy will grow over time to include more types of people.

Social unrest may evolve this network faster than expected, in particular ways that are not foreseen. So, in my mind there are two paths for lemmy. A stable growth or chaotic .

Edit : unrest in any country that has a lot of lemmy users if alternative social networks clamp down or are unsafe to use

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Mixed opinion these days often reads more like outright polarization vs balanced discussions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

For me, it’s neither strength nor weakness. I’m a boring old fart, I’m not here for politics.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

I mostly here not for politics too... yet everywhere I look in Lemmy, it's all politics, kinda annoying

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

It is a weakness.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

"For example, in terms of attracting new users" - meaning that's the whole point of the question, so I'll address that.

Lemmy isn't a corporation and doesn't have to think like one. Market share means nothing. The goal is a high-quality app that does what its users want. If a majority of those users have a similar range of political views, that's just how it works out. There's nothing stopping ultra-conservatives from spinning up Lemmy instances if they want, blocking communities whose overall personality they don't like, and banning users they don't like. If this balkanizes the lemmy userverse, I don't see that as an issue.

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