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[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If Lightning cant strike the same place twice, then artillery can't either... Right?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

The Somme has enetered the chat.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What a slow and ineffective way of taking down a drone. Faster is to just say to it, "Down boy! Heel! Who's a good boy?" and the drone will automatically switch sides

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Pspspspspsps

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Just grab your robes and start shouting Wololo

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Despite looking like a science fiction war crime, that's all these things do.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago

Pyongyang's anti-drone tactics manuals:

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Actual question, what's the credible advice if your small group is caught in the open by a drone?

Obviously "don't be" or "have EW coverage of your operational zone". But beyond that what is the prevailing wisdom western soldiers are taught assuming countermeasures don't work and you have to risk exposure?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago
  1. Shotgun

  2. Pray

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Drop your pants and expose your anus in a sign of submission.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Perhaps there's another way

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

The amount of videos of russian soldiers being blown up with their pants down proves you wrong

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Send a bigger drone with a net on it to catch the smaller drone.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's always a bigger drone.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Every drone gangster until the UAV AC-130 flies in.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Nice try, Shoigu!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Shoot it. Repeatedly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't know what actual doctrine is right now.

I'd suggest that it should include something like:

  1. Announce the presence of the drone and direction so that everyone else is immediately aware of it, some sort of standardized wording ordered so that the most-important information comes first. Something like "drone, 3'o'clock". Same sort of thing doctrine specifies doing if an ambush is detected; need to get everyone on the same page immediately.

  2. If on an unarmored vehicle, stop the vehicle and dismount.

  3. Get away from other members of your squad to some minimum "safe" distance. This immediately reduces the effectiveness of the drone's weapons by a significant amount.

  4. Get near the ground to minimize vulnerability to shrapnel.

  5. Shoot at the drone with any practical weapons you have, as long as you have a clear shot without squad members in the background.

  6. Don't run away from the drone. It can outpace you.

  7. When and as possible, notify higher command. That'll let it help analyze and respond to the threat in general (I.e. it's known that a drone operator had a drone active at time and place X, we're aware of damage to ourselves as soon as possible, etc).

  8. If it is downed, don't approach the drone, as it may still be active.

A bigger complication is how to deal with combined arms threats, like a drone and being under fire from small arms. As with other combined arms threats, the counters to one to some degree are going to conflict with those to another.

Also, some of these tactics and counter-tactics are going to evolve. Like, this might work well against a lone FPV drone. But what if that drone just lands and goes into a lower-power mode, keeping the squad pinned until more FPV drones can show up? I don't know how coordinated drone operators are on each side...yet. But if coordination will help, it's a good bet that it will eventually be used.