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Like, why is it so widespread, what causes it, what solutions are available, etc. I don't really know how to ask this question so I hope I'm making sense

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Sex researchers Baumeister and Tice wrote about sexual economics.

"A heterosexual community can be analyzed as a marketplace in which men seek to acquire sex from women by offering other resources in exchange."

From an evolutionary standpoint it makes sense that women wouldn't want a partner that can't provide security for the couple when the woman would be vulnerable if pregnant/nursing.

Young men in particular have fewer resources of value to offer than at any time in most people's lives. To that point, it's not like young women are dating any better, so even if they are willing to be the sole provider, most are unable to do so.

With the traditional partnership which historically provided companionship out of the question, men are left yearning for female companionship.

Another point the researchers make, is that men will always yearn, while women have a generally easier time abstaining until conditions are right.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Lack of socializing. We’ve lost the third place in modern society. It’s work and home and nothing else. Lots of people work from home now, which is great, but only if you have a third place. You have to meet people in the real world and find a way to connect with them.

People laugh, but churches are a good way to do that. Check one out, sit in the back, and watch the people who show up- the demographics, make sure the congregation is diverse, etc. If you see a same-sex couple walk in and sit down like they’ve done it a hundred times, you don’t have to worry about all the hate bullshit.

Church is a great way to meet people in a place where everyone feels safe and accepted. They are extremely welcoming to newcomers. There are always activities and groups to join. Churches have been the third place for literally centuries.

Even if you have irreconcilable philosophical differences, check out a Unitarian church.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I know Jordan Peterson has a lot of followers. He says it's the women's fault men are lonely. He says men are their victim, pictures women as evil while men should be on top. This creates an even bigger isolation and creates sex offenders.

In Japan and South Korea there are many men who are isolated because of videogames and it's online culture. They have a relationship with a Nintendo character of AI on their phone (no joke).

Because a lot of lonely men are on the internet, it's not a correct representation of the real world. Doesn't change the fact there are many non the less.

Just because there are many different cultures accessable for anyone through the internet, it's easier to isolate yourself in such a culture. Whether it's on reddit, 4chan, through games, forums or other social media groups. But it keeps you off the streets, away from real socializing, learning to behave, how to talk to a girl, find a hobby which isn't on your computer, meet real friends.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I know Jordan Peterson has a lot of followers. He says it's the women's fault men are lonely

Peterson has a habit of saying things that might technically be true in isolation but will then disagree with you when you try and make a conclusion from it. In this case he has also said it's men's fault for not making women a good enough 'offer'.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There is a lot of comments faulting society. But the individuals need to take personal accountability. Choosing to live online is what I see as the crux of this issue. This comes from personal experience of living online and being loney and miserable untill i started getting out and meeting people. This lonelyness "epedemic" is people not managing their screen time.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Social media changed dating, and made it ok for both women and men to treat eachother as commodities, resources, status symbols.

This bleeds over in real life, where women don't need/want to have relationships with men anymore (in real life) in the west (outside of their love relationship). They already get all the attention they need from hundreds of men on social media telling them they are beautiful.

A lot of western guys go for girls in Indonesia or Thailand these days, because they are kind and beautiful. Of course the girls see the opportunity to be with a guy from the west who has money. But it seems to work out. Both genders are often happy in those relationships, both get what they value from it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And what's up with cab drivers and B.O. - how long are those shifts? I'm thinkin' Hey!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

What's up with dumb answers to serious questions? I'm just wondering, Hey!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Too much duplicitousness out there

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I need the most cynical take you have...

Hans Moleman (from The Simpsons) standing inside a cracked phone-booth

...nooooh, that's too cynical.

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