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[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 90 points 2 months ago

Tik Tok staff working from home on their break:

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 89 points 2 months ago

Bunch of assholes. Hope it hits the responsible managers house and the office building.

[–] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 69 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So this is the easiest opportunity for the most upvoted comment ever, thanks to Mr.As-Long-As-It's-Not-Illegal-It's-Fine down there!

I would still like to add my opinion: TikTok is an instrument of non-conventional warfare and espionage, why is it still running like it is

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Supposedly it's shutting down the day before inauguration.

[–] DanglingFury@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Task complete

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I have agreed for the longest time. But a couple of friends in intelligence are really trying to convince me this is a distraction lately. I haven't gotten a good answer to why status quo should be allowed but those guys don't ever consider "how end users are" when we get into it.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

You can't work from home cuz we have to justify the expense of our office, and if we can't provide the office your home is our office.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Fuck the CCP and PLA owned companies. Free West Taiwan!!!

[–] airportline@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Calling China "West Taiwan" undermines Taiwanese independence.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 2 months ago

Its a shitpost but u ain't wrong from geo politics perspective although I doubt shepooh would try to play that angle ever

It is one China, boy (Taiwan, did play this one though)

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Both the People's Republic of China (China) and the Republic of China (Taiwan) claim to own all of China and Taiwan. Neither has reneged on their claim.

The reason why you see the west dance around Taiwan is because if they acknowledge Taiwan then they acknowledge Taiwan's claim the mainland China (at least as far as China is concerned).

I think it's time for Taiwan to renounce their claim to mainland China and gain full international support.

Of course, internal politics are probably not that simple. And China would definitely use that as an excuse to invade -- er, restore democracy to -- Taiwan.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Taiwanese in Taiwan. It's mostly the corrupt KMT that wants to reunite China and Taiwan.

They are normally super old people that can't let go and turn a blind eye to what's happening inHong Kong

[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

They have WFH and make 6 figures per year. Explain to me why it's surprising the company converted it to WFH. You take the perks with the disadvantages they entail, unless, we're supposed to be angry with tiktok and don't really care for the workers 🤔

If it sounds bad and it's not illegal, the problem isn't tik tok!

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 98 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Quit this bullshit. A lot of tech workers working remotely are contractors, precarious workers. Content moderators, data labelers, and the likes are not paid 6 figures and they are not privileged. Most of the workforce of these companies are not white, rich dudebros. Stuff like this adds insult to injury.

[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Is it illegal though? Perhaps start there, with worker protection law. Everyone is happy to help the dudebros exploit the working class as long as line goes up.

Edit: Lol, 1s, immediate downvote. If only you were as assiduously fighting the exploitation...

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 58 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm a union organizer in tech. My downvote was the 8th, not the 1st. I was busy doing a call with striking riders in Greece. Keep up the good work, scab.

[–] Uranium_Green@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm genuinely unsure they're a scab, I think they're saying that we cannot expect these parasitic companies to have the workers best interests at heart, and as such strong workers rights should be enshrined in law and enforced.

I could be misunderstanding them though of course.

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pitting different types of workers against each other automatically promotes you to a scab. Purism and sectarianism are much more harmful to labor organizing than union busting.

[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Good on you, give them hell and good luck with the cheeto in chief. If you need to run, you'll always have a home this side of the ocean.

Regarding the "different types of workers", a CEO is still a worker. Smart people know the difference between those that take advantage of legislation vs those who suffer from it. This type of absolute dogmatic purism is what got your laws to be shit in the first place.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Regarding the "different types of workers", a CEO is still a worker.

Shit like this is why they called you a scab. Ceos aren't workers, they're part of the capital class. Thinking of ceos as workers shows me you haven't thought through your positions past a surface level.

Smart people know the difference between those that take advantage of legislation vs those who suffer from it.

You mean like ceos and the rest of the capital class? And I'm guessing you consider yourself one of the "smart ones" LOL

This type of absolute dogmatic purism is what got your laws to be shit in the first place.

No, capital owning politicians is what made our laws to be this shit.

[–] noride@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"it's not the CEOs fault they're fuckin' ghouls, bruv" - this guy

[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

Now start pulling the rope, who gives mandate to the CEO? Who controls the mandate? Do they also influence legislation?

Believing the CEOs are the problem and not just another abstraction layer so the real responsibility doesn't fall squarely on the neo nobility is the mark of the failure of the left. It's like herding sheep and hearing the bleating hatred for the Shepherd dog.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 months ago

CEOs are not workers, they are part-owners in typical compensation schemes. Give me large unearned blocks of stock or a percentage of the net revenue, that would make me not a worker.

[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago

Precisely this.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I think that exactly what they are saying, but it misses the whole point. Yes, either protections would be great to prevent against this and no it's not illegal, but it's heinous and TikTok should be lambasted. The poster is essentially victim blaming because of their assumed jobs, pay, and because their misfortune is not illegal. It's just a really bad take, even if it's not technically wrong.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 90 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Who cares about the legality?

If somebody's house burnt down, you give them whatever they need. Any company not giving somebody in that situation paid time off is a shitty company. I know for sure my boss would give me whatever I needed and ask if he personally could help in any way.

Employees are humans first and foremost and need to be treated with respect and compassion, not slaves to be exploited and punished.

[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

A public company will 99,9% of the time be shit, that's why you need strong worker protection enshrined in legislation. The fact that all the downvoters didn't get the subtext is one of the reasons you got to this situation in the first place. The average literacy in the US is godawful and the political process only works in easily digestible soundbites, so complex themes like worker protection get relegated to the back seat in favour of who uses which bathroom.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Holy shit take the L.

No one here disagrees with that, or is unaware of the "sUbTeXt".

That's just not how subtext works. You don't get to say one thing, then claim you meant something entirely different (the reasonable take) and call it subtext.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

We can't take the L they have to be right because... Reasons

God the trolls are out in force today. What did a new round of funding come in from Russia?

[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You're not doing your home country any favors. Your inability to understand the situation is astounding really. Where are you from that made you so damn smart?

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago
[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (9 children)

If that was a typo for America, and you are trying to say you're American, you've got at least one thing in a prior comment that's a dead giveaway that you are not.

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[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

I've never seen a big company like bytedance give PTO for a death in the family, much less for someone's house burning down.

Any of those companies big enough middle management can hide behind "company policy" and then off their hearts and brains.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

It's not even about humanity, it's also the right thing to do from a business perspective: You want your workers to be productive again ASAP, that's worth not just continuing to pay them, but also focussing the collective buzz-bee energy of middle management on finding out what everyone needs and finding ways of providing it so they can actually do work instead of dealing with personal shit. Suddenly have 1000 homeless employees? Get them hotel rooms, find them homes, if need be build apartments. Have the legal department pro-bono the management of their insurance claims. Whatever is necessary, the next useless presentation and the next grand lawsuit you planned can wait. Don't paint your nails while your feet are on fire.

[–] Hellsfire29@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And people mocked Trump for wanting to "rake" the forest floor.

Who's laughing now?

Cue all of the excuses and blame Trump anyway

[–] DrPop@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Isn't "raking" the forest part of the reason we have bad first fires?

[–] dukethorion@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

No. Clearing away underbrush regularly keeps the fireload from building up in the first place.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

Did they? I lose track of what trump is mocked for

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

You can't dance in fire like that!