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Canada is preparing to retaliate against Donald Trump’s proposed 25% tariffs on Canadian imports, which could trigger the largest trade war between the nations in decades.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau promised counter-tariffs worth $37 billion, with potential for further measures, depending on Trump’s final order.

Canadian officials warn the tariffs could harm both economies, disrupting key sectors like automotive, energy, and agriculture.

Labor leaders expressed concerns over job losses and urged collaboration. Canada hopes to avoid tariffs by highlighting their mutual economic impact to U.S. lawmakers.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 216 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Eggs are going to be so cheap bro.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 months ago (1 children)

some car parts cross the border as parts en route to assembly plants, and then back again in fully-assembled vehicles.

[–] Flying_Dutch_Rudder@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Some cars cross the border 5 to 6 times while being assembled. Car prices are going to sky rocket.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 46 points 2 months ago

Just one more oil boom, bro. We promise not to piss this one away. C'mon, don't hit us with oil tariffs on our marginal product we can't get to market. Don't be a dick bro.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 108 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I love long-discredited economic ideas making a comeback. As someone who studied Econ, it’s just peachy seeing people vote to be poorer because no one remembers the last 50 times this was tried and didn’t work.

Please, everyone read about the 1800s. I’m not completely hostile to crypto but so many crypto people are like, “What if we had a ‘free banking’ era? Surely, there’s no downside.” And you just slam your fist on the table and say “Please read one AP American history book. An actual textbook, not a YouTube video. I’m not a particle physicist because I watch PBS Space Time.”

[–] Fashim@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Could you give me a quick summation of why a free banking era is a bad thing and how it relates to the 1800s?

Not trying to start an argument, just genuinely curious

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So, essentially, every bank was issuing its own currency. But banks fail all the time. And no one knew what was real money. I’m saying this on Lemmy so I’m clearly for distributed things but cash money needs a central bank, for trust reasons. Gold is a stable element so it was that for centuries but it also led to horrible things. Like an entire hemisphere dying of smallpox.

So, long story short, after WWII. we settled on the U.S. dollar, which was then pegged to gold. Eventually, Nixon decided to unpeg it from gold. Which was fine because gold was arbitrary. We could have pegged it to any element on the periodic table. Bretton Woods is what to google to read more.

So, what is the dollar backed by now? Mostly the U.S. Navy and trust built over time. It’s not perfect. America has never defaulted on its debts and you can exchange dollars for local currency at any airport. The independence of the U.S. central bank is a big reason. But if you’re writing a contract for a global deal, you use dollars. If Argentina wants to buy something from Vietnam, the contract uses dollars.

In the 1800’s, there was no agreed upon currency. Banks made their own currencies. And it was a catastrophe.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Basically, if you go buy dope, the dope man isn’t taking foreign currency except maybe U.S. dollars. Euros are probably fine but the dope man isn’t taking shit that can’t be changed into local currency. He’s got bills to pay too.

American dollars have value for irrational reasons but they have proved the test of time.

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[–] RedditRefugee69 16 points 2 months ago

I think it's a bit late to tell people to look up why this won't work, especially on Lemmy.

Everyone here knows Trump is not going to be good for the economy and can't or won't do anything about it.

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[–] TimboSlice@discuss.online 82 points 2 months ago (7 children)

As an American surrounded by trump voting douchebags, I hope the economy crashes and people get a taste of what voting like a retard feels like.

[–] yogsototh@programming.dev 17 points 2 months ago

when you have a certain world vue your frame of reference is this one. And you will prefer to hide reality for a very long time before admitting you made a poor decision. Worse admitting your point of view is not moral, or problematic.

All of this to say, people will not make a direct correlation between facts and their acts. They will find another plausible (for them) explanation.

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[–] Cool_Name@lemm.ee 69 points 2 months ago (6 children)

As an American, I want the world to punish us for our bullshit.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago (2 children)

As an American, I really want to get the fuck out of here.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

As a non-american, you're doing about okay as everyone else.

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[–] Subverb@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That was my reaction exactly. "Good. Fuck us."

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[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago

Repeated prisoners' dilemma. They have to threaten and they have to add tariffs if the US does, anything else would be bad strategy

It's not helped by the fact that Trump is corrupt and might have different winning conditions like "make Putin happy", but that doesn't change what Canada has to do.

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (28 children)

Watching the US dollar

Grabs popcorn

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Watching the already shit Canadian dollar...

looks up best noose rope

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 months ago

rope prices too high

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[–] gidostro@lemmy.cafe 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’d like them to focus on taking all the Americans who can contribute to the economy. I volunteer for tribute.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (12 children)

The problem is Canada doesn't want a bunch of Americans.

[–] gidostro@lemmy.cafe 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But but, I have good job, no guns, no criminal record, aaaaaannnnndddddd I like hockey. So, maybe? Like a trial basis? 😅

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Hmmm...are you from Michigan? Minnesota?

[–] gidostro@lemmy.cafe 15 points 2 months ago

I will be from wherever you want me to be.

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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

I'm currently up in Canada for an extended stay, it's honestly so much nicer than back home. I'm gonna be sad to leave. I too gladly volunteer as tribute.

Edit: also everyone here has been so incredibly welcoming

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

You should probably wait until after Monday to come home. Maybe something catastrophic will happen and you'll get stuck there. Oh noooo

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Trump doesn't understand that tarrifs go both ways.

It's kind of amazing that his first priorty upon entering office is getting revenge and starting wars. What an incredible person and even more than that, an incredible leader. Amazing.

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[–] RubicTopaz@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago
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[–] r0ertel@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

This is pure genius. Hit them where it hurts the most while simultaneously benefiting consumers.

I don't understand why this isn't the first option when a treaty is violated? Whybwould Canada continue to enforce their side of a now nullified agreement? How does Canada benefit from this?

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 22 points 2 months ago (15 children)
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[–] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good, Do it. Every country should do it. Make it fucking hurt.

[–] WagyuSneakers@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

I can't wait to not be able to afford diapers since racist rednecks elected a clown. It's like being held hostage on a train that's headed for a brick wall. Trying to raise a family through this is so hard.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Make smuggling contraband across the great lakes great again.

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[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I've said this before, the EU should just invite Canada into the Union.

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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do it. Isolate this evil shithole until it collapses. Please do it.

The US needs to be broken up the way the USSR was.

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

We have no choice-- we must give California to Canada to assuage their anger. A tariff war would be bad for business. Its a shame its come to this, but jobs might be at stake here.

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[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"Trump is more respected by other nations than Biden" part deux dipshit boogaloo

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