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After Saturday's 23-14 AFC divisional round loss to the Kansas City Chiefs in which some penalty calls worked against the Texans, Houston defensive end Will Anderson Jr. said, "We knew it was going to be us versus the refs going into this game."

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[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

I was shocked to hear the commentators seem to get fed up with it. Basically 1 call and 1 no-call would had the final score 15-14 in the Texans favor. And that's ignoring the other bad calls. Then we'd have a close game in the 4th quarter.

Tbh, the Chiefs usually win those close games. Let them do it!

[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Hard to disagree.

[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

If mahomes wins another super bowl because of bull shit refs I'll just stop watching football. No point in watching fixed games.

Might as well be wwe.

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The NFL set these rules because players were retiring with brain injuries. Helmet to helmet is a penalty. I do think they need to adjust the rule for intentionality and severity but so long as the rule stands it exists for all. If a team gets the short end of the stick concerning the penalty, that's just bad coaching or bad luck.

[–] One_Honest_Dude@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In this case they were bad calls. Even the ESPN announcers and rules analyst said they were bad calls. The issue here was poor officiating.

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It was clearly helmet to helmet. That's a rule violation. https://imgur.com/a/CSlBm5p

[–] CarrierLost@infosec.pub 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then call it for everyone equally. If not, it’s favoritism plain and simple. It was a bad call. Both times.

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There were no close calls against the Chiefs. The game was called equally.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If it was clear helmet to helmet how come the call wasn't helmet to helmet? That's not the penalty that was called buddy.

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

NFL Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8 (roughing the passer) literally starts off as, "If a player uses any part of his helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/”hairline” parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily." After a few paragraphs, the rule concludes with, "If in doubt about a roughness call or potentially dangerous tactics, the covering official(s) should always call unnecessary roughness."

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yes that is a different penalty from the one you mentioned previously thank you for catching up. I would also add that your clip shows incidental contact not anything that could be said to be used as up to butt spear or Ram an opponent. I'd also point out that it was the incorrect call. As he was a runner at that point and not a passer. Hopefully now you understand why it was such a bad call.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean sure, but back the play up a second. He was standing up when the players entered there tackle. He slid down into the path of their helmets. Technically yes a penalty, but I think it just drives everyone crazy that Mahomes fishes for penalties. Those players had no time to pull up.

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The rule sucks. I guess the agreement is the rule should be changed. But faulting a player for taking advantage of the existing rules? The rules are the same for everyone. Smart strategy involves finding a way to use existing rules to your advantage. That's part of the competition.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Well as the rule states, it uses the word uneccesarily. He slid right into their helmets giving them no time to pull up. As another user said, it was incidental contact on the part of the defense. I think if the NFL allowed picking up flags due to replays they would have picked that one up.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It gets worse after the egregious no call on Goff in the next game.

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Different crews do call things a little differently. I missed a good chunk of that game. Got a clip for the purpose of discussion?

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When I watched it at live speed, it looked like a block using hands. Had to slow it way down to see the helmet contact. If you read through the rule, however, Goff probably isn't a "defenseless" player at that point, so there's room to argue the penalty wouldn't qualify during that play.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The rules analyst could be wrong, but according to them on the broadcast the QB is protected through the whole play after an interception.

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

QB protection continues so long as he doesn't further engage in the play. Blocking or attempting a tackle voids that protection.