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Trump Lost. Vote Suppression Won. (www.gregpalast.com)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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"If the purges [of potential voters], challenges and ballot rejections were random, it wouldn’t matter. It’s anything but random. For example, an audit by the State of Washington found that a Black voter was 400% more likely than a white voter to have their mail-in ballot rejected. Rejection of Black in-person votes, according to a US Civil Rights Commission study in Florida, ran 14.3% or one in seven ballots cast."

"[...] Democracy can win* despite the 2.3% suppression headwind.

And that’s our job as Americans: to end the purges, the vigilante challenges, the ballot rejections and the attitude that this is all somehow OK."

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Re post text: For context, Washington state is mail-only voting, so that number would (I assume) be for all votes, not just specifically requested mail-ins. I didn't see it in the article, but I wonder if that is predominantly "centralized" or "distributed" in nature; i.e. are technically-valid ballots from all voters being incorrectly rejected by the county elections facilities office at different rates across racial lines, or are there other factors like targeted disinformation, education, local infrastructure, or socioeconomics that disproportionately affect Black (or other types of minority) voters that would make them more likely to produce a technically-invalid ballot?

Those might get the same statistic, but would seem to indicate very different sorts of problems and approaches.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (24 children)

well, leftists/squad progressives did tell all the young democrats not to vote for Joe/Kamala, so they didn't vote. with litteraly everything at stake, having already lost things like federally protected safe abortion access. you know who did turn out, young people, arab americans, and latino americans who voted for trump, think that made up ~ 2.3% and the differece between the young people who didn't vote democrat and the "new republicans" tilted the balance in the swing states? nah, probably not, right. do they call that a phyrric victory? no that's egyptian. anyway, congratulations to everyone who marched on every major us city, and took over campus commons across the nation in the spring and summer of an election year, chanting "from the river to the sea". i wonder if that scared the bezeezus outta just middle america or all of it. nah, probably had nothing to do with it. anyway, enjoy your victory over "genocide joe" (kamala) folks

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I don't get this repeated talking point. Do you just want people to say you were right? Do you want to quash discussion of politics?

I have a feeling that comments like these, that point backward with blame and promote hopelessness, are foreign disinformation.

They are pointless. Help or get out of the way.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

leftists/squad progressives did tell all the young democrats not to vote for Joe/Kamala

Interestingly, people can self-identify however they want! I didn't see a meaningful amount of genuine progressives telling people not to vote. There's speculation that foreign disinformation spread the sentiment of "protest voting" and stirred shit up.

However. Whatever the case, people need to take personal responsibility. You decide what type of information to consume and how to vet it (if you even do). And you are to blame if you decided not to vote or threw it away on an inviable 3rd-party candidate.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Oh look election denialism

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Oh look, voter suppression denialism.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah trump lost, that's why he is the president of the united states of America

Guys, ease up with the fickle double think

Next thing you'll say that Kamala won and she is the one in actual charge of the nation lmao 🤣

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Is winning by cheating winning?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Do you have actual proof? Did you denounce it to the authorities? Hell, have you taken this proof to the press? I'm sure everyone would love to hear and see about it!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

What is funny is this is everything Aotus did when Biden won. Guess what? We didn't love to hear about the massive voter fraud he claimed and was unable to prove. Strange that when he won suddenly no problems with voting.

You would have to live under a rock to come up with these double standards. I would like to see someone take proof of gerrymandering to Faux News to see what they do about it. Oh yeah, absolutely nothing.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

They know. They are complicit! Gerry mandering, voter suppression getting rid of polling locations in black neighborhoods. Making it illegal to give water to those waiting to vote. Trump saying something about elon knowing these machine very well. Removing people from voter registration. I'm sure there is more. If you are unaware of these things you are living under a rock.

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