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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/54201470

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[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 96 points 2 months ago (4 children)

So we spent like what, 20 years saying China censorship bad and finding sneaky ways to get them in the global Internet via VPNs and Tor and Tor bridges, and now we want to make our own?

That'll go well.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We don't want that. A very small group of very small spoiled children do.

[–] sneakyninjapants@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A very small group of spoiled children with outsized wealth and political power*

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 24 points 2 months ago

Everything they accuse others of is what they want. The projection is absolutely insane. Children grooming, limiting free speech, stealing elections, stealing jobs, everything...

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

That's been the plan all along. Just needed the big bad Chinese Bot to come along to start nudging the idiots of Xitler and r/conservative to start clamoring for their own Great Firewall to protect their freedom.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

They're already putting porn behind a government firewall in many red states. They're coming for everyone else now.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 42 points 2 months ago

How about fuck you assholes. Build better security

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Remember remember the fifth of November, gunpowder treason plot. Never shall it be forgotten.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Remember, remember the fifth of November, gunpowder, treason and plot. I know of no reason why gunpowder treason should ever be forgot."

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Thanks for the fix, was trying to remember the lines. I failed horribly

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree, but no, I'm not wearing the stupid mask.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

Better to not wear masks, in project mayhem we hide in plain sight

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Prox@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Specifically, the Blackwall.

Pretty crazy how prescient Cyberpunk (and Neuromancer, etc.) are looking right now.

[–] Krompus@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Freedomwall

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well that would be against the 1st amendment. Not only are these shitheads running towards the slippery slope, they're already sliding down the mountain and dragging us all along with them in the name of staying on top and keeping their money. They will certainly not be bound by such laws, and there will just be more and more of this "haves v havenots" bullshit. This shit needs to be shut the fuck down. Now.

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

The shitheads have already threatened to use force against their allies in NATO and applied amnesty to participants in the coup attempt, so... Nothing is surprising anymore.

[–] 0x01@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago

Short sighted idiots

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

China is an entire economy built on intellectual property thievery and slave labor. The whole thing, that's their advantage, and source of gdp which perpetuates the CCP's stranglehold on 1.4 Billion people . Theft and slavery. The Chinese CCP can fuck off into the sun.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Did US propaganda tell you that?

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

China is an entire economy built on intellectual property thievery

To be fair, espionage is a common thing throught history. This is nothing really morally wrong with copying from other countries.

By your definition, the US technically "stole" the atomic bomb from the nazis by "stealing" German scientists. I mean like... who cares.

Your argument should focus more on what the implications of what it means for China to become more powerful, not the "intellectual property" aspect. Like what jurisdiction? The powerless UN? Is it "intellectual property" if we find a alien spacecraft and didn't ask the aliens for permission to reverse engineer it?

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago

Sounds like very late stage capitalism to me....

They just did the speed run past us.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think the tech bros are simply terrified of what China is about to unleash on the US and the world by them bringing down their great firewall this year.

[–] BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are bringing it down?

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, Xi made an announcement last week it will start off in one of the major cities with full removal in a few months. Chinese citizens will be able to sign up on all 'western' social media. The US opening Pandora's box with the TikTok ban has let the Genie out of the bottle. I suspect other tech to come out of China will make the US look like its living in the mid 1800s

[–] G0ldenSp00n@lemmy.jacaranda.club 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Do you have a source for this, I was trying to find anything about it but couldn't. It would be quite interesting if they do end up taking it down, and I would love to read more.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I was also curious about this (it's rather surprising news). This seems like tankie misinformation.

The only somewhat relevant source was this article in SCMP from Jan 17th where a Shanghai party official called from partial lifting of internet restrictions in some areas.

That being said, it doesn't look like this went over well:

It is not clear when the post was put online but it was removed on Friday morning.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I'm looking for it, it was from a Chinese source.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 6 points 2 months ago
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

I wonder how this site manages to load the stylesheet 1 second after the content?

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

So, those AI rules and regulations from the Biden admin order that Trump walked back as soon as he got into office...