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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Imagine paying $80 annually for this mediocre trash.

Edit: Down for 20 hours.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I do and I’ve never had this problem. Ever. If the system goes down it’s rarely for more than a few hours, at which point i live my life, since I understand shit happens and servers sometimes fail. I dunno what your complaint is exactly but I get great value out of that yearly fee

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

This has actually happened before multiple times. Why pay for internet usage also? You all are getting scammed. You know consoles even used to have free internet as well, the PS2 HDD glory days.

You get zero value out of that fee, they are literally just taking your money. The fact you cannot see this is extremely sad

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Does PS+ not give free games anymore?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I kept hearing this free games. Will you be keeping the game if you unsub?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nope, but if you resub you’ll get the games back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So not free at all then lmao. Subscriptions for games? Yikes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

subscriptions for games! thats exactly what i wanted!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

It does and I always have something new to play between the monthly and catalogue games. Some people think it’s only for online access i guess

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you think psplus is online gaming access only? The monthly games and catalogue games always have something new for me to play. I play PlayStation a minimum of 2 hours a day and I haven’t had to buy a game since I got psplus and a library card. Half the games on my list end up on psplus within months. Maybe you yourself don’t see the value but I get plenty out of it. I played over 100 different games this year and it only cost me $80 a year

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Do you think that exists because you are being charged a fee? What a joke lmao.

You dont even wanna know pc gaming sales then.

Plus As soon as you end your ps plus you cant even access those free games anymore. You are getting royally scammed

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is so so weird, to hate a game company so much that you get this worked up over someone else finding value in their service. Let me guess you’re one of the steam fanboys that thinks that your billionaire and his corporation are somehow more moral cause you post funny Gabe memes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What game company do I hate?

The weird thing is getting this worked up and then defending a fee that is scamming you.

That is what is so so weird.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The complaint is that online on PC is free like it should be, not this ridiculous $80/year bullshit that console manufacturers can lock you into their ecosystem and force you to do.

If I'm paying $80/year for a service that's free on an already better platform, you'd better believe that it going down for this long (or basically at all) would be totally unacceptable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

If you have kids the fact the system is locked in becomes something of an advantage. MS and Sony are pretty aggressive moderating accounts when it comes to people being inappropriate around kids which is something you can't get as easily on PC.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Grow up, life isn’t perfect. You act like your WiFi you’ve paid for has never gone down before.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

For ~~12+~~ 20 hours? Literally never, actually, in the 8 years with them (maybe 2 hours at most, maybe 5 total outages ever?), and there isn't a simultaneously free and better alternative. This fee is just there to gouge; it shouldn't even exist.

Cope harder.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Projection, who needs to grow up exactly? You are defending something that shouldnt even exist

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

PSN being down is a tale as old as time. When the PS3 was out and before the PS4 was announced PSN had been down like at least once a month. It was well known as the least reliable gaming network. Even though Nintendo had their "Nintendo WiFi Connection" which was basically P2P and super garbage, it did not go down like PSN did.

Xbox Live was vastly more reliable, likely because Microsoft has a better understanding of how to run a network, and they took the subscription money and reinvested it back into Xbox Live, growing and bolstering it to the point that it has its reputation for being the most reliable of the 3 gaming networks.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you pay a monthly fee for videogames just so you can not play them?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Did you not just read about how I play pretty much everything on there? It’s so weird hating a game company so much that you get mad when someone else gets value for their money

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are the only one hating everyones comments.

What is weird is defending paying to play online

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

i'm not mad.

you seem to be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

In the distant past of like 2000, you didn't have to pay for online functionality. Also, people could host their own multiplayer servers. It was nice. Consoles and capitalism did a team-up to make things shittier for the end user, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

But you did? I paid for GameSpy back in the day. And MMOs had fees to play online.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

The online is the last reason I pay for psplus, you think I wanna play online with you people? I hate online gaming. I have psplus for all the games, all of which I play. So great value for me

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why does this happen to Sony every few years? They expect you to pay for online and just can't get their shit together.

Good thing they stopped with the PSN requirement on PC. Imagine buying your singleplayer game and you can't play it the entire day because Sony forgot to pay their server bills.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This hardly ever happens anymore. I remember the days of the PS3 when it felt like a weekly occurrence.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Weren't they down for ~7 hours just last year?

Not saying it happens often but having a downtime that long is unprofessional for a company that size.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes. A worldwide service provider should be able to achieve at least 4 9s of uptime. That's 99.99% available, or about <52 minutes of downtime a year. That's accomplished through best practices with redundancy, planned maintenance, and solid disaster recovery plans.

The ways to achieve a disaster of this magnitude include:

  • No hot spares
    • A security event has locked all redundant servers and they are now rebuilding servers from backup.
  • Lack of effective redundancy
    • A disaster has occurred at one data center and the load sharing is causing the servers to be unresponsive
      • This is unlikely because there would be intermittent reports of success
  • Poor patching management
    • Patches were sent to all servers without proper testing or rollback strategy
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Weren't they down for ~7 hours just last year?

Sure was.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Parents world-wide talk to their children for the first time!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Only in 70 countries. No change in rest of 100+ countries.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

lol my son is acting like this is the worse thing that ever happened to him. (It might, he’s lived a pretty privileged life)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is why I don’t play PS5 online and I have my PS3 just RSS in case

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is reading RSS feeds on your PS3 a good substitute for playing PS5 online?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Looks like it's finally coming back up.

Edit: nevermind, not fully back up. Looks like some PSN services are working, but game logins are still down.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago
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