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[-] [email protected] 193 points 5 months ago

Hot take, but with so many actual sexual assailants and literal pedophiles in the world, I will just never be able to give two shits about what Leo does or does not do with other legal consenting adults, sorry.

[-] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago

Leo's relationships are also transactional and both parties understand that. He gets arm candy and the women get access to high level movie executives/producers.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

And another point, as a man a lot younger than say Salma Hayek. I'd happily be her young handsome piece of action. I would also get to be with an extremely attractive woman.

The same goes for these women and Leonardo Di Caprio. He is objectively an attractive man. It's also bragging rights. I was in a relarionship with x-celeb. Of course many women dream of being with him, and of course a lot of them are gorgeous.

I think they are both having a great time, and see no reason to judge.

I fully agree let's care about the things that actually matter and actually hurt people.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Hotter take: This shit perpetuates women as sexual objects though, which, in some cases, might even make it easier for someone to rationalize their violence against a woman

[-] [email protected] 80 points 5 months ago

What shit? Allowing adults to make autonomous choices rather than infantilizing and pre-ascribing victim status to them?

Again, y'all can't pretend we're talking about children, we are talking about full legal adults with rights to autonomy.

If there is coercion or abuse, absolutely demonize and mobilize against that. But until there is, all you have is suspicion and suggestions that infantilize the real adult women in the scenario.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

Dating women who are just old enough to be legal but only while they look youthful. While being in a societal position where your life is public and you can do whatever you want, the latter of which many look up to. This normalizes dating women for looks, namely for looking young, instead of for having things in common. This doesn't exactly improve how women are viewed. Youngness isn't a woman's biggest asset and we shouldn't encourage the normalization of the view that it is. The fact that some women are complicit in this doesn't change it.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago

People are allowed to date for whatever reason they want. As long as two adults are freely consenting it's not up to you to be the moral police and decide what should push people to date each other.

They can date for the looks, to look or feel younger, to go outside their comfort zone, for sexual pleasure, for pure intellectual attraction, for material benefit, for [...long list].

This is one of the instances in which the good goal of fighting abuse becomes bigotry. It's basically like religious moralism.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

This would be true in a vacuum where marginalization and power dynamics don't exist. It's a symptom of women's systemic oppression and needs to be called out as that in order to fight womens oppression. Especially since this is happening in the public eye and thus shaping people's views. I'm not doubting the women are consenting, and they're not to blame at all. It's Leo and the media and public opinion that are doing harm by framing this situation as desirable.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

Hard disagree.

Also there are plenty of opposite examples (i.e., older women celebrities dating younger guys), what is that a symptom of?

This has nothing to do with feminism imho. In fact, I would say the opposite, it's an attempt to prescribe what women should do. Religious morality.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

There are a million valid reasons to value and date a person, and their looks, even potentially the youthfulness of those looks, is one the same as any other. We don't live in the world of perfect reason devoid of animalism that you're pretending; sexual attraction is and is always going to be a part of the equation. While we should continue making strides to ensure women are valued for their contributions to society and have more equitable positions and opportunities, I do not believe that means sterilizing or desexifying society nor artificially pretending the inherently inequitable nature of human attractiveness is somehow something that can be forced into equity through social pressure. Life is just simply more nuanced than that.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

So you want to take agency away from every adult so they conform to your views only?

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

the latter of which many look up to

When I read your whole comment, I feel like you're ascribing the blame in the wrong place. It's the "many" who choose to look up to these people, using their standards in place of their own, that I would say is the real issue here. Leo doing this does not normalize dating women for looks for me. Neither does Pharrell Williams buying a cybertruck and riding around in it influence or normalize cybertrucks for me. If people want things based on superficial reasons, they'll learn that it's only superficial and doesn't have substance.

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago

The core of humor is exaggeration. The joke is that it only took 3 hours, and not the usual 3 years past their 18th birthday.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago

actually ☝️🤓 its 25 that is his max, not 21

[-] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

And it's not creepy in the slightest that this handsome, successful, rich middle-aged celebrity stops dating these young women right around the age the brain fully matures...

[-] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago

If they're consenting adults and well aware of his habits then why do you care?

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

It's one of the categories of humor. You can also be funny by timing, reference earlier works or common knowledge, etc. Best jokes combine multiple things. In this case, exaggeration and reference to common knowledge (DiCaprio likes em young)

[-] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago

wow it's so nostalgic to see Ricky Gervais form a couple sentences back to back without whining

[-] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

This title reads as passive aggressive. You good, OP?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

He's ok OK ? it was JUST a joke

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Tom Hanks did not enjoy this speech at all lmao.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Ricky Gervais is transphobic garbage.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

"What too challenging for ya!"

I fucking love James Acaster

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Here's Louis CK's joke on it: https://youtu.be/r6x3e8MurQY?t=72

Yes, I know he's cancelled and all that but I don't know I still love his comedy. Like ... I cut out a lot of comics like Joe Rogan (just kidding, he's barely a comedian) so I dunno I just remembered this joke.

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