Hot take, but with so many actual sexual assailants and literal pedophiles in the world, I will just never be able to give two shits about what Leo does or does not do with other legal consenting adults, sorry.
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Leo's relationships are also transactional and both parties understand that. He gets arm candy and the women get access to high level movie executives/producers.
And another point, as a man a lot younger than say Salma Hayek. I'd happily be her young handsome piece of action. I would also get to be with an extremely attractive woman.
The same goes for these women and Leonardo Di Caprio. He is objectively an attractive man. It's also bragging rights. I was in a relarionship with x-celeb. Of course many women dream of being with him, and of course a lot of them are gorgeous.
I think they are both having a great time, and see no reason to judge.
I fully agree let's care about the things that actually matter and actually hurt people.
Hotter take: This shit perpetuates women as sexual objects though, which, in some cases, might even make it easier for someone to rationalize their violence against a woman
What shit? Allowing adults to make autonomous choices rather than infantilizing and pre-ascribing victim status to them?
Again, y'all can't pretend we're talking about children, we are talking about full legal adults with rights to autonomy.
If there is coercion or abuse, absolutely demonize and mobilize against that. But until there is, all you have is suspicion and suggestions that infantilize the real adult women in the scenario.
Dating women who are just old enough to be legal but only while they look youthful. While being in a societal position where your life is public and you can do whatever you want, the latter of which many look up to. This normalizes dating women for looks, namely for looking young, instead of for having things in common. This doesn't exactly improve how women are viewed. Youngness isn't a woman's biggest asset and we shouldn't encourage the normalization of the view that it is. The fact that some women are complicit in this doesn't change it.
People are allowed to date for whatever reason they want. As long as two adults are freely consenting it's not up to you to be the moral police and decide what should push people to date each other.
They can date for the looks, to look or feel younger, to go outside their comfort zone, for sexual pleasure, for pure intellectual attraction, for material benefit, for [...long list].
This is one of the instances in which the good goal of fighting abuse becomes bigotry. It's basically like religious moralism.
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There are a million valid reasons to value and date a person, and their looks, even potentially the youthfulness of those looks, is one the same as any other. We don't live in the world of perfect reason devoid of animalism that you're pretending; sexual attraction is and is always going to be a part of the equation. While we should continue making strides to ensure women are valued for their contributions to society and have more equitable positions and opportunities, I do not believe that means sterilizing or desexifying society nor artificially pretending the inherently inequitable nature of human attractiveness is somehow something that can be forced into equity through social pressure. Life is just simply more nuanced than that.
the latter of which many look up to
When I read your whole comment, I feel like you're ascribing the blame in the wrong place. It's the "many" who choose to look up to these people, using their standards in place of their own, that I would say is the real issue here. Leo doing this does not normalize dating women for looks for me. Neither does Pharrell Williams buying a cybertruck and riding around in it influence or normalize cybertrucks for me. If people want things based on superficial reasons, they'll learn that it's only superficial and doesn't have substance.
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So you want to take agency away from every adult so they conform to your views only?
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~~the thing is, you know he'd go younger if it was legal~~
Ok i was wrong, according to the famous reddit chart, he didn't date anyone below 20 after 25 so he does seem to have a lower limit.
In my opinion though that lower limit should adapt to your age. Of course the specifics of that are highly debatable, but the idea is there.
Do you? Because that sounds like an assumption to me.
if he is 50 dating 20yo's, why wouldn't he? what's the difference between 20yo and 17yo when you're 50?
The difference between a grown adult without that much life experience and a literal child who is still going through puberty!
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Adulthood is the difference.
What wild transformation does a human undergo on their 18th birthday that makes dating a 17yo as a 50yo man pedophilia, but dating a 18yo totally ok? Both ages are way too young for him.
Legality.
For most of humanity "childhood" wasn't even a concept in the way we think of it today. Our ability to give the people in society this gift of childhood is truly one of the greatest achievements of modernity. But it's still a somewhat arbitrary line in the sand we drew, yes. I personally believe it is a reasonable one, designed conservative enough so that one can safely assume anyone on the other side of the line has had the chance to develop and grow free of unnecessary outside influence to rightly be deemed an adult after.
If society wants to redefine the terms of where that line is drawn, that is fine, as we as members of society can do so.
But for the time being we drew the line at 18. It seemed fucked as hell to say "this is the line, this is what's appropriate" and then demonize a man for staying within those lines. It's fucked to say "here's the line" when you actually mean "actually the real line is way over there and by being this close you've actually broken the rules."
Dude is staying inside the lines, and interacting with those we have deemed full legal adults imbued with the right and power of autonomy. To the best of my understanding there have been no claims of coercion, abuse, or anything of that nature. So I'm sorry, but trying to convince me that dude is doing something wrong by adhering to the rules as laid for him just isn't going to vibe with me.
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The frontal cortex matures from roughly 14 to the early 20s, characteristic of that age is to be both impulsive and confused, while the cortex is already fully functional you're still figuring out what to actually use it for.
That is: In the early 20s you become fully adult. Not in the legal sense (that's usually 18), but biologically. You're a grown-up. To argue that they can't make their own decisions is highly infantilising.
So there you have a guy who's a bit older, but very charming and generally fit, probably good in bed, a gentleman all around, he's famous and you have a modelling career that could take a bit of a boost. You get along well with each other. You enjoy the interplay between a fresh outlook on life and some more settled experience, it's invigorating both of you. Is there a transaction in that arrangement? Sure. But it's one that 20yolds are adult enough to enter with full awareness of what they're doing. Is it for you? Probably not, from what I gather. Is it your place to judge? Neither.
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Hollywood can and does go younger. Do you think Epstein Island was the only place where the powerful pedophiles go? Laws don't matter to these people.
Has anyone even accused DiCaprio of SA?
The core of humor is exaggeration. The joke is that it only took 3 hours, and not the usual 3 years past their 18th birthday.
actually ☝️🤓 its 25 that is his max, not 21
And it's not creepy in the slightest that this handsome, successful, rich middle-aged celebrity stops dating these young women right around the age the brain fully matures...
If they're consenting adults and well aware of his habits then why do you care?
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It's one of the categories of humor. You can also be funny by timing, reference earlier works or common knowledge, etc. Best jokes combine multiple things. In this case, exaggeration and reference to common knowledge (DiCaprio likes em young)
wow it's so nostalgic to see Ricky Gervais form a couple sentences back to back without whining
This title reads as passive aggressive. You good, OP?
He's ok OK ? it was JUST a joke
My it's just a joke shirt has people asking me a lot of questions alreadt answered by the shirt
Tom Hanks did not enjoy this speech at all lmao.
Ricky Gervais is transphobic garbage.
"What too challenging for ya!"
I fucking love James Acaster
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Here's Louis CK's joke on it: https://youtu.be/r6x3e8MurQY?t=72
Yes, I know he's cancelled and all that but I don't know I still love his comedy. Like ... I cut out a lot of comics like Joe Rogan (just kidding, he's barely a comedian) so I dunno I just remembered this joke.
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