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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/conservative@lemmy.world
 

ETA:

For accuracy, the chart is old (2014) and references discretionary spending instead of mandatory which is where programs like SNAP (Food Stamps) generally fall

However, even accounting for all that properly, at the time of the meme, food stamps would have still been just 2% of the federal budget. Thus the spirit of the meme is still good.

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/a/36521

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[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Is the chart accurate? Do we have a source?

I ask because I don't see where social security would fit at all, and I suspect that Medicare/Medicaid would be a larger portion than the 5% listed for health.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Is the chart accurate?

No. It's outdated, misleading and inaccurate.

Most people don't realize it but in FY2024 the interest payments on our national debt exceeded the entire military budget.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/breaking-down-the-u-s-governments-2024-fiscal-year/

If you don't like that source then here's the treasury department itself: https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/federal-spending/

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's blatantly dishonest for OP's chart to be labeled "Federal Spending" when it doesn't include the majority of federal spending categories. Particularly when the goal is for the reader to point at the largest spending category, despite the chart not including the largest spending categories.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes and no, a reverse image search pulled up this answer on stack exchange https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/a/36521

It's old, and only represents discretionary spending vs mandatory (which is where food stamps/SS/Medi* would be) but according to them for food stamps specifically it would still only be about 2% of the federal budget

[–] PapaSkwat@lemy.lol 6 points 1 month ago

Can you update the text part of the post with these details?

[–] CoCo_Goldstein@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I believe food stamps are a subset of the US Department of Agriculture spending.

[–] FuzzChef@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago

According to the comments of an earlier post of the same picture it is not: https://lemmy.world/post/25845711

[–] Tyrangle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Social security and Medicare are considered mandatory spending. The chart above is presumably showing discretionary spending, which is a subset of the overall budget. I can't speak to it's accuracy beyond that.

[–] PapaSkwat@lemy.lol 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If this community is going to continue to exist, memes like this may need to be reworded. The old community was a fount of bad faith and it's easy to respond to bad faith with more of the same but moving forward we probably need less call outs and more discussion, less finger pointing and more understanding.

Last week's mods didn't want that. Their goal seemed to be (and this is the best faith I can put on the situation) the representation of under represented viewpoints, i.e. conservative viewpoints. Unfortunately that resulted in an extremely useless echo chamber full of circle jerking, JAQing off, bootlicking, whataboutism, and sealioning.

I can't tell you how excited I am about these mods having their power taken away, but we can't replace them with the same divisive tactics and say anything has improved.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately that resulted in an extremely useless echo chamber full of circle jerking, JAQing off, bootlicking, whataboutism, and sealioning.

Oh, man, I was curious about how people would actually act on this community, but it seems I decided to not check on the one week it got from zero attention, to overflowing with bad behavior, and felt down!