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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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DISCO s1e4 "The Butcher's Knife Cares Not..."

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[–] [email protected] 169 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Man it was really stupid (and cringe) of them to talk about musk in discovery. And it aged terrible lol

[–] [email protected] 90 points 2 months ago (1 children)

OMG yeah that reference aged like a Cybertruck.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They could have at least read up about him if they were going to name drop, it was clear if you paid attention back then how bad he was, though it was more understandable for someone not paying attention to not know

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Jason Isaacs improvised the musk part in hopes of getting a Tesla

He mentioned it in an aftershow

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

I’m gonna keep believing, he said that because he knew he was from the mirror universe.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

The dumb fuck.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Was it before or after the "pedo submarine" thing?

Because I'm having a hard time understanding how much attention one would need to pay.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think before. Pedo submarine comment was 2018 and I believe this was 2017. He had made crazy comments but nothing was big news at that point iirc

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Honestly, a better analogy is Henry Ford.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Though to be fair, I am pretty sure Edison wasn’t a fascist, because fascism hadn’t been invented yet

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

An asshole is an asshole is an asshole. I get you, though

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's pretty risky to name drop a living person, and they did it just to seem a bit more modern.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I heard somewhere the guy said that in the hopes that musk would give him a Tesla or something 😅

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Even before it became common knowledge that Elon Musk was a twat, I found the way the media fellated him to be egregious.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

They were paid to 100%. A twat like that hires entire companies to manage his public persona. At least until he started to take matters into his own hands more and more

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How much do you think Musk paid to get his name dropped? I bet you he paid too much.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (3 children)

He didn't have to pay for that back then. He was worshipped by the rich pseudo progressive people, meaning modern Star Trek producers and writers.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He even was in the second Iron Man, because back then he was viewed as a real life Tony Stark. That was before he openly showed what a fucking bigot he was

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How funny would it be if they did a George Lucas and just edited the audio to remove Musks name.

Elmo would be so mad. His ego wouldn't be able to take it.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Feels like they at least have to add a warning like this:

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My headcanon for this is that the events between the early 21st century and the show's time, given they were full of some rather devastating wars, led to the true history of what he actually was like getting largely forgotten, leaving his pr campaigns the main source of information history has to go on him, and this leaving the people of the future with an idea of who he was that is much nicer than reality.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

For example, In The Motion Picture, there’s a ship named after Christopher Columbus. We know now what kind of person he was and that he doesn’t deserve to be honored. But in a universe where from the 1990s it was one war leading to another which lead to the big one that almost wiped out humanity, Columbus is still known as the pioneer who put the Americas on the map.

This is also the reason for a lot of other little historical blind spots that are part of Trek canon.

In the case of Elon Musk, I don’t think Trek’s 21st century would have allowed him to rise to power (or even become famous) in the first place.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I just watched this series in the last year and I remember scoffing when I heard that, lol I had no idea what was coming.

Also being kinda new to Star Trek, is there a joke about Frakes? My wife and I always joke that when an episode makes no fucking sense, it was directed by JFrakes, and I wonder if its something like a joke among trek fans

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

He tends to pick up more oddball or funny episodes. In this case, he actually didn't direct that episode. Felt fitting and needed something to tie things up on a more positive slant.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

My head canon is that Paul Stamets has no idea who the fuck Musk is, and that he didn't want to interrupt Captain Lorca's seemingly encouraging speech. So this is definitely a slip (in my head canon) since Musk is definitely a prominent historical figure in the Mirror Universe.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Doesn’t explain how Tilly attended Musk Junior High School, though.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Have we considered that the Wright Brothers may have been massive megalomaniacal douches that took credit for someone else's invention too, and this statement is entirely consistent?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

I fucking FORGOT about that part lol

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Elon Musk must have been a decent guy in the Mirror Universe.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

No, he was a normal guy in the normal universe. We’re in the mirror…

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