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Owners of the world, unite!

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well done to the papers for coordinating a protest about this. Especially the Sun and DM (wasn't expecting that).

It's sad that the government cares more about growth than about its constituents. I thought that was the corpos job.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Especially the Sun and DM (wasn’t expecting that)

Why not? Because their owners already have enough money? I'm surprised by The Guardian, but that's class solidarity for you. Owners of the world, united. Explains a lot about the state of the world.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Daily Mail and Mirror clearly think their readers are too dumb to understand that the regular paper is inside if they dont write that on the cover lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah for real, who assumes the cover page is all there is to a newspaper? It has the logo on it

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To explain what that is: UK Newspapers all printed the same cover page to demand money for copyright owners. They all joined together to make their demand. Newspapers like to market themselves as guardians of democracy. This is what it looks like when they really want something.

They are spreading a lot of deceptive talking points. So here's some facts.

UK copyright law applies in the UK. If the owners' demands are met, then British people will have to pay owners around the world to use AI. These international owners try to invoke national solidarity by talking about "protecting British creativity". But that's a lie. British creatives would have to pay extra for software like photoshop, while the money would go to owners around the world. For example, Reddit would get money for owning the copyrights to the users' posts.

Copyright is intellectual property. Like any other property, it is typically owned by the corporation that employed the worker that made it. If the owners are able to lobby their way to some free money, normal workers will not see a cent. Even most authors won't. The printers, secretaries, janitorial staff, and so on, without whom none of these newspapers would exist, certainly won't.

These are daily newspapers. Yesterday's news are proverbially worthless. All the labor that went into producing these newspapers, including the authors, has been paid off. If these corporations get their wish, they will be able to sell their intellectual property a second time. That's pure profit.

If this was about supporting "British creativity", then you could use taxes to subsidize, for example, rooms for band practice. You could give the BBC more money for journalism. If you're worried about job losses, you'd be thinking about unemployment benefits. No one is asking for any of that. It's all about money for property owners around the world.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Copyright is intellectual property.

Speaking of deceptive talking points...

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Look at who owns the copyrights. It's not Mark Knopfler, it's Sony.

Copyright is entirely IP and does not serve its original function (according to the Constitution of the United States), To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts rather inhibits innovation by unlicensed actors.

Fuck copyright. Fuck patents. Fuck IP.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

He makes a good argument. I think the European experience supports him.

EU law uses the term "intellectual property". In fact, "protection of intellectual property" is enshrined as a fundamental right in EU law. When EU politicians demand respect for fundamental rights and values from American tech companies, it implies cracking down on piracy and giving money to copyright owners.

Applying property thinking to data is responsible for many, maybe most, of the problems that make it so hard to build a tech industry in the EU.